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Old 10-08-2016, 10:41 AM   #1
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Range Report: Two New Sigs and a Make-over (P229, P226, M11A1)






Decided to take the kids to the range this week, finally. Have had the two stainless models for a few weeks, but was waiting until my M11A1 came back from the Sig shop for the Action Enhancement as well as the regular trigger replace. I was eager to see how they all stacked up to each other.

I was shooting strictly combat style, so no real observations about accuracy except as it relates to my own skillset under those conditions. A few observations (again, all IMHO and I'm sure YMMV and probably does):

1) The P226 did not shoot well for me. It did not feel right in my hand, even though my hands are normal (or even on the small size). The trigger pinched (it, along with the other stainless, have the short reach).

The biggest issue, though, was the incredibly long trigger pull. I'm not talking weight here -- that was just fine. It was the pull itself. It felt, subjectively, like about twice as long as either of the other two pistols. Worse, after that incredibly long trigger pull (which I admit got me to flinching even during combat drills, as I never knew when it would finally get there) was the incredibly short reset trigger, so much shorter than my other two pistols that I wasn't quite sure it had even reset or perhaps I had somehow run out of ammo.

All in all it was a distinctively unpleasant experience, and one that surprised me because I had heard about how "everyone needs a P226" and how great they are. Perhaps for others, but for me this is the one pistol I could easily part with (can't afford to right at the moment, but if I can somehow find a way to trade and get a P229 SAS or even another M11A1 in Army green I may well do it).

2) Biggest surprise was the P229 SS -- it actually shot better for me than my M11A1 (more about this one in a minute). I don't know if it was the heavier weight or what, but it was a joy in every way. Trigger did not pinch, even though it was the short reach, but I suspect this is due to the thick grip, even thicker than the M11A1 because it has the rosewood grips. I wish I could carry it, but the very weight that makes it so nice to shoot also makes it too heavy for this old man to CC. But in any case, this is a keeper.

3) I already knew the M11A1 would be sweet, and sure enough the trigger job made it perfect. While it didn't shoot *quite* as well as the P229 SS (because it's lighter) it now no longer pinches my finger (which it did with the short reach trigger) and the pull is just like butter, with a break like a glass rod. I have such great confidence in this that my EDC is now firmly cemented (as if it weren't before).

4) With the P226 I hit the stand on the right a few times -- including my clip there (which destroyed it and cut short my sesson). Pretty funny, though -- glad the wife wasn't around (in a combat situation it might still have been okay, as the target was rather narrow. Still, first time in thousands of rounds I've ever done that with ANY pistol, still yet another issue with that weapon).

I shot a couple hundred rounds of the cheapest ammo I could find with no problems with any of the guns, but that is to be expected with Sig quality. Other than the fact I don't like the P226, it was a VERY nice day. When I go back next I'll only bring the two.

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1) The P226 did not shoot well for me.
Never could anything with mine either, sold it. However the P229 &P224, different story. Those I do quite well with, ??
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Mike, where did you get that case? I want one.
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Rosewood on stainless is a beautiful combination; and the M11A1 looks good no matter what it wears.
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Mike, where did you get that case? I want one.
That's actually due to another forum member here (sorry, can't remember who) who posted an image of his.

It's the Seahorse carrying case. Here's a link on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Seahorse-SE63...horse+gun+case

As soon as I saw it I knew I had to have one. SO nice to carry my guns and mags to the range now.
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Never could anything with mine either, sold it. However the P229 &P224, different story. Those I do quite well with, ??
Glad I'm not alone then.

Yeah, I'm afraid my P226 will also go the way of the Dodo at some point. Sigh -- it LOOKS so pretty, though.

But I can't sell it unless I get some sort of replacement, as it's one of the home protection staged guns. So it and my other beauty, the also rosewood gripped 1911 Compact Sig, will have to go (THAT one just doesn't fit my hand. Hmmm, that's the same issue with the P226. Perhaps there's a theme here :>).
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All in all it was a distinctively unpleasant experience, and one that surprised me because I had heard about how "everyone needs a P226" and how great they are.
It should be "Everyone needs a P226 in 9mm and P229 in 40". I don't shoot P226 in 40 well either.

Nice collection you have there.
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Glad I'm not alone then.

Yeah, I'm afraid my P226 will also go the way of the Dodo at some point. Sigh -- it LOOKS so pretty, though.

But I can't sell it unless I get some sort of replacement, as it's one of the home protection staged guns. So it and my other beauty, the also rosewood gripped 1911 Compact Sig, will have to go (THAT one just doesn't fit my hand. Hmmm, that's the same issue with the P226. Perhaps there's a theme here :>).
Mike, I have an old Browning HI-Power, could never hit anything with that either, last year purchased a set of Pachmyr grips, with finger grooves? Totally changed it, now I can shoot quite well with it. Maybe changing grips would help, I know the Rosewood looks great but maybe it is as simple as that.
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That's a possibility but, yeah, half of the niceness of the pistol are the rosewood grips. Kind of like buying a stainless steel gun and then replacing the frame with aluminum so it won't be as heavy <g>.

I think the easier solution is just to sell it and get another M11A1 -- I've been lusting after the Army green one (although I'd also have to send it off to Sig for the AE. Sigh). I'm going to try and sell my other Sig first and wait a bit, maybe try firing it one more time before I'm sure it won't work for me.

(And for the other poster -- ALL my Sigs are 9mm, so it's not a question of caliber, just of configuration).
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That's a possibility but, yeah, half of the niceness of the pistol are the rosewood grips. Kind of like buying a stainless steel gun and then replacing the frame with aluminum so it won't be as heavy <g>.

I think the easier solution is just to sell it and get another M11A1 -- I've been lusting after the Army green one (although I'd also have to send it off to Sig for the AE. Sigh). I'm going to try and sell my other Sig first and wait a bit, maybe try firing it one more time before I'm sure it won't work for me.

(And for the other poster -- ALL my Sigs are 9mm, so it's not a question of caliber, just of configuration).
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No, that was on me -- should have specified.

I used to shoot 45ACP when I had my Sig 245, the ONE gun I wish I had never sold. But nowadays all I can afford to shoot is 9mm and it works for me.
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(And for the other poster -- ALL my Sigs are 9mm, so it's not a question of caliber, just of configuration).
I think you have a nice collection there! As a young man, I believed that .45ACP was the only semi-auto handgun caliber that was needed. I still enjoy shooting .45, especially in my stock Colt Commander, but I've changed over the years and cost, capacity and the ergos of the SIGs in 9mm make it my go to caliber/handgun of choice.

I agree, the P226 looks and feels awesome!
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I too tried wooden, and aluminum grips on my P226Mk25, before settling on the E2 setup. The wooden grips were too thick, and the Hogue aluminum too course. Perhaps that's why Sig has transitioned to using more E2s.

My P225-A1 has G10 grips. Those, with the undercut frame, fit my hand "like a glove" - extremely accurate.

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No, that was on me -- should have specified.

I used to shoot 45ACP when I had my Sig 245, the ONE gun I wish I had never sold. But nowadays all I can afford to shoot is 9mm and it works for me.
I would get a P245 again if you felt that way about it. There are 4 on Gunbroker now.
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Ah, I can't even afford the gun I want right now, let alone trying to buy back a gun I'd probably pay 2x what I sold it for.

Perhaps some day...
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