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Old 09-18-2016, 01:11 PM   #376
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From Head Shot: SIG 716 DMR, Trijicon AccuPoint 2.5-10x56mm, 100 yards

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I'm a Central FL hunter and I wanted to easily combine my day pig hunting rifle and night rifle into a single platform. I've been a long time fan of Sig handguns so it made sense to look at their rifle offerings. The 716 DMR seemed to fit my requirements the best ( .30 cal, accurate and full length rail to accommodate both day scope and clip on night vision). Unfortunately, none of my local dealers had one in stock for me to check out. I took a leap of faith and bought one sight unseen through Gunbroker. Well, it finally came in and I couldn't be happier. The craftsmanship that I'd always appreciated in Sig's handguns is also very evident in the 716. In my opinion, it's very robust and well built.

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I've got a Trijiicon Acupoint 2.5X10 X56 scope on it. I'm using Black Hills 168 grain BTHP match ammo.100 yard target. This next pick is two 3 round groups prior to completion of barrel break in and final zero. I had 1 flyer.

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This is after a 40 round break in. Two 3 round groups with a 1/2 MOA adjustment made in between.

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I've not decided on a NV clip on yet. Not sure if I want gen 3 or thermal. Hopefully the tax stamp will come through by November and I'll be adding a Surefire Socom can.

I'm pretty damn happy with the performance!
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:16 PM   #377
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From Bpacman: SIG 716 DMR, SIG Tango4 3-12x42mm, 100 yards

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I have had the gun for about two months now. After the initial barrel breakin, I have been testing some bulk ammo and some reloads. I even shot it in a 3 Gun Match and you can imagine that using a 13+ lbs AR tends to slow you down some. Shooting from the Rooftop prop was tricky since the recoil got the roof to rocking. Bottom line is that I have not been happy with the accuracy. My groups have been 3"+ at 50 and 100 yards. I suspected that the bullet may be getting damaged during the loading cycle because I would get two shots touching then a flyer would come out of nowhere. So I decided to test this out by doing two 5 shot groups. One loading single rounds and one loading from the magazine. I didn't find any significant difference between the two.

I gathered up some commercial ammo and some reloads that I have been working on to see which would group the best. I previously sighted the gun in with 168gr Federal Premium Matchking. During the test it looked like it still shot the best, but the 168gr A-Max with 44gr of Varget was a close 2nd. The M80 and Magtech ammo shot about the same.

Scope is a Sig Tango4 3-12x42mm. I also added an AAC 51T Flashhider.

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Anyway, if you are expecting this rifle to give you a nice clover leaf group, it probably won't do that for you. If you like shooting the FMJ bulk ammo, don't get your hopes up for tight groups. The gun continues to function without flaw, but if you are trying to decided between the Patrol or the DMR, you probably won't see precision gun accuracy out of the DMR so it isn't worth the extra weight. YMMV.

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My Ma would say the same

It's all about liking one's own toys.

What doesn't cease to amaze me is how some fancy equipment can make a total dunski like myself land shots without looking like an idiot...

These optics make it too damned easy.
I have a friend in Pensacola who couldn't shoot his STG58/FAL very well. I convinced him to purchase a TA-11E with the red chevron. He now is making hits from 25 to 400 yards. This fellow has no professional shooting training. He said himself that the ACOG made all the difference.
He has taken up hog hunting now and says he has made hits on running pigs that he used to miss.

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OK, I take it back. It can be a Tack Driver, but she is a finicky ***** when it comes to what she likes to eat.

I did a step load using Varget powder, 168gr Z-Max Bullets, Win LRP, New AE Brass and 2.800" OAL. The powder was stepped up from 40gr to 44gr. Each powder drop was hand measured and each round was gauged and measured for consistency. 5 Shot groups at 100 yards from a bench rest fully supported. I do have to admit, I love the trigger on the gun. Most breaks are a total surprise.

As you can see there is a big variance in accuracy from one load to the next. 42gr of Varget is definitely the clear winner. I just need to get some chrono data on the load and then I can stop my search for accuracy.





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OK, I take it back. It can be a Tack Driver, but she is a finicky ***** when it comes to what she likes to eat.

I did a step load using Varget powder, 168gr Z-Max Bullets, Win LRP, New AE Brass and 2.800" OAL. The powder was stepped up from 40gr to 44gr. Each powder drop was hand measured and each round was gauged and measured for consistency. 5 Shot groups at 100 yards from a bench rest fully supported. I do have to admit, I love the trigger on the gun. Most breaks are a total surprise.

As you can see there is a big variance in accuracy from one load to the next. 42gr of Varget is definitely the clear winner. I just need to get some chrono data on the load and then I can stop my search for accuracy.





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Holy **** that is finicky! I would not have guessed that 1gr increments would make that big of a difference. Something seem odd to me.
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From jwg45acp: SIG 716 Patrol, 100 yards

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So I was shooting the heck out of my SIG516 and I was getting pretty ho-hum results. It was spotless as I had recently returned from shooting out west and all my black rifles were dirty and consequently got a thorough cleaning.

Anyway, after being disappointed in my 516 (which is usually the tackdriver) I busted out a clean SIG716 and laid out on my shooting mat prone and shot these three groups at 100 yards using my harris bipod.



The first group fired from a clean/cold bore was the group at the bottom. I'd say the Hornady 168gr AMAX scores the tightest day-in, day-out. But that Hornady American Gunner 155gr BTHP is usually really close, and some days shoots tighter. Federal Match is always third but still respectable.
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Finally got out to zero in my Vortex Viper (last year's Christmas present) with its new ADM Recon mount (this year's Christmas present).





I used AE 55g 5.56 to zero on the center target (100 yd zero), then did 5 shot groups with PMC .223 77g OTM. I was impressed with the 77g! These are the best groups I've gotten with my 516 so far.



I think I will try this at 200 yds on the next trip!
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