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Old 09-18-2016, 12:11 PM   #376
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From Head Shot: SIG 716 DMR, Trijicon AccuPoint 2.5-10x56mm, 100 yards

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I'm a Central FL hunter and I wanted to easily combine my day pig hunting rifle and night rifle into a single platform. I've been a long time fan of Sig handguns so it made sense to look at their rifle offerings. The 716 DMR seemed to fit my requirements the best ( .30 cal, accurate and full length rail to accommodate both day scope and clip on night vision). Unfortunately, none of my local dealers had one in stock for me to check out. I took a leap of faith and bought one sight unseen through Gunbroker. Well, it finally came in and I couldn't be happier. The craftsmanship that I'd always appreciated in Sig's handguns is also very evident in the 716. In my opinion, it's very robust and well built.

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I've got a Trijiicon Acupoint 2.5X10 X56 scope on it. I'm using Black Hills 168 grain BTHP match ammo.100 yard target. This next pick is two 3 round groups prior to completion of barrel break in and final zero. I had 1 flyer.

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This is after a 40 round break in. Two 3 round groups with a 1/2 MOA adjustment made in between.

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I've not decided on a NV clip on yet. Not sure if I want gen 3 or thermal. Hopefully the tax stamp will come through by November and I'll be adding a Surefire Socom can.

I'm pretty damn happy with the performance!
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Old 09-18-2016, 12:16 PM   #377
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From Bpacman: SIG 716 DMR, SIG Tango4 3-12x42mm, 100 yards

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I have had the gun for about two months now. After the initial barrel breakin, I have been testing some bulk ammo and some reloads. I even shot it in a 3 Gun Match and you can imagine that using a 13+ lbs AR tends to slow you down some. Shooting from the Rooftop prop was tricky since the recoil got the roof to rocking. Bottom line is that I have not been happy with the accuracy. My groups have been 3"+ at 50 and 100 yards. I suspected that the bullet may be getting damaged during the loading cycle because I would get two shots touching then a flyer would come out of nowhere. So I decided to test this out by doing two 5 shot groups. One loading single rounds and one loading from the magazine. I didn't find any significant difference between the two.

I gathered up some commercial ammo and some reloads that I have been working on to see which would group the best. I previously sighted the gun in with 168gr Federal Premium Matchking. During the test it looked like it still shot the best, but the 168gr A-Max with 44gr of Varget was a close 2nd. The M80 and Magtech ammo shot about the same.

Scope is a Sig Tango4 3-12x42mm. I also added an AAC 51T Flashhider.

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Anyway, if you are expecting this rifle to give you a nice clover leaf group, it probably won't do that for you. If you like shooting the FMJ bulk ammo, don't get your hopes up for tight groups. The gun continues to function without flaw, but if you are trying to decided between the Patrol or the DMR, you probably won't see precision gun accuracy out of the DMR so it isn't worth the extra weight. YMMV.

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My Ma would say the same

It's all about liking one's own toys.

What doesn't cease to amaze me is how some fancy equipment can make a total dunski like myself land shots without looking like an idiot...

These optics make it too damned easy.
I have a friend in Pensacola who couldn't shoot his STG58/FAL very well. I convinced him to purchase a TA-11E with the red chevron. He now is making hits from 25 to 400 yards. This fellow has no professional shooting training. He said himself that the ACOG made all the difference.
He has taken up hog hunting now and says he has made hits on running pigs that he used to miss.

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Old 09-24-2016, 11:34 AM   #379
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OK, I take it back. It can be a Tack Driver, but she is a finicky ***** when it comes to what she likes to eat.

I did a step load using Varget powder, 168gr Z-Max Bullets, Win LRP, New AE Brass and 2.800" OAL. The powder was stepped up from 40gr to 44gr. Each powder drop was hand measured and each round was gauged and measured for consistency. 5 Shot groups at 100 yards from a bench rest fully supported. I do have to admit, I love the trigger on the gun. Most breaks are a total surprise.

As you can see there is a big variance in accuracy from one load to the next. 42gr of Varget is definitely the clear winner. I just need to get some chrono data on the load and then I can stop my search for accuracy.





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Old 09-29-2016, 04:45 AM   #380
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OK, I take it back. It can be a Tack Driver, but she is a finicky ***** when it comes to what she likes to eat.

I did a step load using Varget powder, 168gr Z-Max Bullets, Win LRP, New AE Brass and 2.800" OAL. The powder was stepped up from 40gr to 44gr. Each powder drop was hand measured and each round was gauged and measured for consistency. 5 Shot groups at 100 yards from a bench rest fully supported. I do have to admit, I love the trigger on the gun. Most breaks are a total surprise.

As you can see there is a big variance in accuracy from one load to the next. 42gr of Varget is definitely the clear winner. I just need to get some chrono data on the load and then I can stop my search for accuracy.





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Holy **** that is finicky! I would not have guessed that 1gr increments would make that big of a difference. Something seem odd to me.
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From jwg45acp: SIG 716 Patrol, 100 yards

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So I was shooting the heck out of my SIG516 and I was getting pretty ho-hum results. It was spotless as I had recently returned from shooting out west and all my black rifles were dirty and consequently got a thorough cleaning.

Anyway, after being disappointed in my 516 (which is usually the tackdriver) I busted out a clean SIG716 and laid out on my shooting mat prone and shot these three groups at 100 yards using my harris bipod.



The first group fired from a clean/cold bore was the group at the bottom. I'd say the Hornady 168gr AMAX scores the tightest day-in, day-out. But that Hornady American Gunner 155gr BTHP is usually really close, and some days shoots tighter. Federal Match is always third but still respectable.
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Finally got out to zero in my Vortex Viper (last year's Christmas present) with its new ADM Recon mount (this year's Christmas present).





I used AE 55g 5.56 to zero on the center target (100 yd zero), then did 5 shot groups with PMC .223 77g OTM. I was impressed with the 77g! These are the best groups I've gotten with my 516 so far.



I think I will try this at 200 yds on the next trip!
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From Nuttz: SIG MCX, Trijicon ACOG TA31, 100 yards

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Went out last weekend to find the right factory ammo for my MCX. I ran nine different brands/loads through it and was very pleased with the results. 10 round groups, 100 yards, fairly fast rate of fire. Please ignore my poor job of circling the groups with the Sharpie. ACOG was sighted in high for all shots. I adjusted it 3.5 MOA lower after this run of these rounds.





1. Federal American Eagle - .223, 55gr, FMJ AR223
2. Federal - .223, 55gr, FMJ
3. Prvi Partizan - .223, 55gr, Soft Point
4. PMC - 5.56, 55gr, X-TAC XP193
5. PMC - 5.56, 62gr, X-TAC M855 Green TIP FMJ LAP
6. PMC - .223, 77gr, SMK OTM Match
7. Israel Military Industries - 5.56mm, 77gr, SMK OTM LR MOD-1 Razorcore
8. Winchester - 5.56, 77gr, BTHP Match
9. Hornady - 223 Superformance 75gr, BTHP



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Took the MCX and the Sled back out today to try out some more ammo. I ran the last 10 rounds I had of the Black Hills 69grOTM then I ran three different kinds of Federal Match ammo through it.



*** All the groups (aside from the 10 round Black Hills group) are twenty round groups and all around 3min groups. I wanted fairly rapid fire groups to see how the MCX would hold up to a pretty hot barrel. ***



Black Hills 77gr OTM, 10rds (not super happy with this stuff):



Federal FC262 77gr OTM, 20rds:



Federal 69gr Gold Medal Match, 20rds:



Federal 77gr Gold Medal Match, 20rds:

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Good to see the rifle is functioning well with the new bolt. I am scared to make the swap since mine is functioning fine.

Before going out to wack a ton of prairie dogs this weekend I slapped the scope back on the MCX to zero in at 100 yards. Only a slight shift to the right but still grouping well with the 55gr Vmax handloads. Haven't shot the MCX in a very long time but it exterminated a good number of PDogs.
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From SteveAikens: SIG SSG3000, Burris XTR II™ 8-40x50mm, 500 yards


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I'd say I'm satisfied. Winds were 8-14 from south and variable. Shooting prone.

Shot this after zero:
Four rounds
First round right [wind push]
Second round left [four clicks to into wind]
Two rounds stacked bulls [backed out two clicks]

Two bulls are a bit high but that's the shooter, not the gun/ammo/scope.

The holes in the right target post at 500 speak for themselves - damn ---

Wind started gathering strength so we packed it up after my RSO hammered the criap out of the 200 steel with his AR.

MLC7 - sounds right... Too bad you missed being here Wednesday - winds topped 70 mph...

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