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Old 09-22-2013, 10:47 AM   #61
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From jkh62 at m14forum.com: SIG 556R, Iron Sights, 100 yards

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Just got back from the range and had a chance to get my Sig 556R on the paper. This is my new 1st generation gun I sent into SIG to have repaired / upgraded to GEN 2 status. I fired around 100 rounds total after I got the diopter sights zeroed. No cycling issues and once I got the front sight adjusted for mechanical windage zero I cranked up the elevation. I am pretty happy popping off the targets pictured at 100 yards using iron sights. I added a muzzle brake on the rifle which helps some in the recoil department. I need to adjust the trigger and head back to the range on a day with better lighting. My targets were in a shadow and I could not get a nice , clear sight picture so I am hoping to do a little better,

The Wolf ammo shot better than the Tula.

Wolf ammo target scored 97-1X
Tula 92- 0

Consider all of the Russian ammo corrosive and clean the gun after firing!



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Old 09-22-2013, 10:53 AM   #62
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If they every made a Short Barreled version of the SIG 556R, I'd be among the first to get one.

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SIG 556R / 7.62x39 - M14 Forum
I was under the impression that the Diopter sight from Sig for the 556R was designed for the .223 round. My understanding is that the bullet drop will be different so when you change the diopter to various distances, it will be off one way or another due to the difference in trajectories between the .223 and the 7.62 rounds. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If they've finally made a diopter adjusted for the 7.62 round, I'll be purchasing one tomorrow. Have you noticed anything like this?
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I was under the impression that the Diopter sight from Sig for the 556R was designed for the .223 round. My understanding is that the bullet drop will be different so when you change the diopter to various distances, it will be off one way or another due to the difference in trajectories between the .223 and the 7.62 rounds. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If they've finally made a diopter adjusted for the 7.62 round, I'll be purchasing one tomorrow. Have you noticed anything like this?
You're right, there isn't any diopter sight for the 7.62mm Russian round.

That's probably why they never sold the SIG 556R with this option.

I had to order one from SIG.

I use the diopter sight on only two settings - open "v" and x meters (haven't decided at what range to zero it yet - I'll have to choose between 100, 200, 300, and 400 meters only).

The other ranges would very likely be useless.

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I was going to give you a range report for the effective range of the 516 but I got rained out this weekend. We needed the rain though. Should be blue skies this upcoming weekend though.
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I was going to give you a range report for the effective range of the 516 but I got rained out this weekend. We needed the rain though. Should be blue skies this upcoming weekend though.
We're patient
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I was going to give you a range report for the effective range of the 516 but I got rained out this weekend. We needed the rain though. Should be blue skies this upcoming weekend though.
I know it is somewhere beyond 400 yards.
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I know it is somewhere beyond 400 yards.
Effective on what ?
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Effective on what ?
Effective on what I would feel comfortable taking a shot at a wild hog at and was reasonably certain I could hit and take him out. Not if I could bounce a bullet off a steel plate. Remember a 69grain .223/5.56 leaves the barrel generating about 1450 pounds of energy. Once it reaches 500 yards it looses allot only generating about 425 pounds of energy. Plus I would like to see how much MOA drop I have to compensate for from 100 to 300 yards. I want to do a real world test with my rifle and my ammo instead of looking at some ballistics chart on the internet.

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Regarding the cdbruster post,I saw no 3/4 moa group pics. I'd also like his load data...until then I'm calling BS on a 168 MK doin 2650 out of a 16 inch barrel or, he's going to wreck his 716 running loads like that.
I just remembered - crobertson has similar groups.

See post 7, he has a photograph of his target.

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From JG4890: SIG 556R, SIGTac STS - 081 Mini Red Dot Sight, 50 to 100 yards

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Picked it up last weekend at Academy. So far the best 7.62x39 I have owned, and I have had everything from garage built to Arsenal SGL's.. and this has been the most accurate. and as far as cycling there was no issues after 160 rounds see video:

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This is my group after sighting in the sigtac red dot at 50 yards



This is my group at 100 yards using just the red dot



That little guy way low, was all me at the trigger. The ones below the 9 ring were from sighting in..
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From pk380: SIG M400, presumably Iron Sights, 25 yards

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Very happy to inform that I just got a new M400 MOE and WOW...

My first AR and I am in simple words: very, very impress...

My first time in the range with this gun, try 25 yards with 223 rem American Eagle and for my surprise all hits...

Here is the proof !

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SIG 716, Trijicon ACOG TA648 - 308H, 100 meters

Started the afternoon with some ammunition I was already familiar with, some CBC 7.62 x 51mm, 147 grain, FMJ, NATO, M80.



Nice try, but no cigar.



The next attempt was with Federal's American Eagle 7.62x51mm, 168 grain, Open Tip Match.



Better! So this is what the rifle's actually capable of!



The next group was with Federal Premium Gold Medal Ammunition .308 Winchester, 168 grain, Sierra® MatchKing BTHP.



Even better!



With the previous (cheaper) ammunition doing well enough, I didn't think it would've made sense to waste the few Federal Premiums that I had...

...so all subsequent shots were done with Federal's American Eagle 7.62x51mm, 168 grain, Open Tip Match.

Here are the rest of the shots, getting my rifle zeroed in.



Getting warmer...



Wow. This last group is with myself doing three - round clusters, taking breaks in between each.

Very slow, very deliberate, serious aimed fire...

The flyer resulted from me losing count.



I can definitely say that out to 100 meters, the rifle easily shoots sub - MOA (0.5 to 0.75 MOA) with the right ammunition!

I'm very, very happy
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There is something very, very wrong with that batch of CBC ammunition that I have...
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SIG 556R, Aimpoint CompM4, 100 meters

Used TulAmmo 7.62x39mm Russian, 124 grain, Steel - Cased Hollow Points.



It was somewhat difficult placing the 2MOA red dot on target - the only way I was able to do so was by using the four (much larger) black squares as reference points.



Not bad, considering the quality of the ammunition...
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SIG 516, Trijicon ACOG TA11H, 100 meters

Warm, windy day. Was getting some noticeable mirage through the scope...



Started off with some Federal American Eagle 5.56x45mm, 62 grain, FMJ, NATO, M855 for zeroing.



Didn't do very well, got pie - sized clusters.

Seems reminiscent of what happened to my SIG 716.







Later tried out some Federal Premium Gold Medal Ammunition .223 Remington, 77 grain, Sierra® MatchKing BTHP, with better results...



Did much better.



Not quite obvious in this picture, but three - round groups ranged between 0.5 to 1 MOA!



Wasn't too happy about the sight picture, though - I really had to work to get proper groups

I guess I've been spoiled by 6x magnification...

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50 yards 556R with the SIG red dot sight 7.62X39

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Thanks!

Attached the image for you...
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What ammunition?

That's a really nice group...
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That's a really nice group...
Tula,first time at the range with our new 556R last Friday. Certainly meets my requirements for one "two legged varmit" or "one hog" of accuracy.
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