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Old 06-09-2013, 02:43 PM   #1
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SIG Rifles - The Mother of all Range Report Threads

I'm pretty much a novice shooter who doesn't really have any thoughts of using these rifles for self - defense, much less any tactical paramilitary fantasies (but my toys would suggest otherwise!). I shoot primarily for the fun of hearing the "bang," with hits on the target being somewhat secondary.

Tactical Paramilitary Fantasies being exemplified by...


...which I think I may have mentioned before.

I just thought it would be good idea to have a thread with range reports from all your various SIG rifles (and "pistol" versions of these rifles, as well) together in one spot.

I'll be cutting and pasting from other threads that I come across.

I'll start off with mine.

This is the first time either of my rifles have been fired with any intent of getting accurate shots; these come from the most recent outing, a 25 - yard preliminary zero.

Rifles were stabilized on one of the earlier versions of the Lead Sled.

SIG 516

Modifications: Geissele SSA - E Trigger, POF Roller Cam Pin, Surefire Three - Prong Flash Hider, MagPul ACS - L Stock.

Optic: Aimpoint CompM4.

Round Count: Barely broken in at 240 rounds, including this session. No issues whatsoever up to now with the ammunition listed below.

Federal .223 Remington, 55 grain, FMJ
PMC 5.56 x 45mm, 55 grain, FMJ BT, NATO, M193
Federal .223 Remington, 55 grain, FMJ BT
* Lake City 5.56 x 45mm, 62 grain, FMJ, NATO, XM855

Comments: All internals ride on a thick layer of NLGI - 1 (previously NLGI - 2 + Oil) grease.

Below is a 30 - round group. I could only count something like 23 discrete holes. The fliers started coming in after the earlier holes started making the way the red dot appeared look different when superimposed on the circle - only for me to realize that I should have been using the black squares as references instead. Subsequent shots started landing back in the center.

I have to say, the SIG 516 is really easy to shoot when partnered with a 2MOA Aimpoint.



SIG 716

Modifications: Same as above (Geissele SSA - E Trigger, POF Roller Cam Pin, Surefire Three - Prong Flash Hider, MagPul ACS - L Stock).

Optic: Trijicon ACOG TA648 - 308H.

Round Count: 250 rounds, including this session. I've been using CBC rounds exclusively. No issues whatsoever up to now.

* CBC 7.62 x 51mm, 147 grain, FMJ, NATO, M80

Comments: Same as above (all internals ride on a thick layer of NLGI - 1 grease).

Below is an 80 - round cluster, with the last rounds making my frustration obvious (by then, I had lost it and started aimlessly plugging away). Can't say I was too happy with what happened. What I think I was experiencing was a huge parallax issue - this BFACOG needed way more room to get zeroed in. The reticle and the target just didn't seem to appear on the same plane at all despite my best efforts. Either something's wrong with my eyes, or there's simply no way one could "Battle Sight Zero" this particular model at 25 yards (granted, the manual indicates 25 meters).

Well, the optic was meant for machineguns, horseshoe reticle and all... I think it would be at Aimpoint - level awesomeness on wider, more open ranges. Need to find one first, though.

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Old 06-09-2013, 02:59 PM   #2
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From KiowaKid: SIG 716, Barska 4-16x50 IR Scope, 50 and 100 yard groups:

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Well finally got to the Range and the 716 functioned great NO FTF,FTE or anything, I have posted some pics below. The ammo used was Lake city match 175 grain (good groups) Prvi Partisan Match 175 grain (no so good groups)Just to make a point I'm an OK shot not a professional by any means and this was the first time this rifle was shot with a cheap scope.





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Here is a couple more at 100 yards the 716 didn't like the prvi partisan 175 grain as you can see, but really liked the Lake city match 175.





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I was wondering if a POF roller cam pin would fit the 716 bolt.
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POF makes them for both their 5.56 and 7.62mm rifles.

I use them in both.
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Sig 716 group

Sig Sauer 716 Patrol Rifle 5 shot group fired at 100 Yards measuring 5/8th inch. 168gr Sierra HPBT Match 42.5gr Reloader 15 fired at pioneer Gun Club McBride Range on 08-June-13 8 to 10 MPH cross wind approximately 75 degrees 40% humidity sunny day patchy clouds. Scoped with a Bushnell Elite Tactical 4-12X40.

Special note: This rifle is EXACTLY as arrived from factory. No special trigger or other alturations.
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Sig Sauer 716 Patrol Rifle 5 shot group fired at 100 Yards measuring 5/8th inch. 168gr Sierra HPBT Match 42.5gr Reloader 15 fired at pioneer Gun Club McBride Range on 08-June-13 8 to 10 MPH cross wind approximately 75 degrees 40% humidity sunny day patchy clouds. Scoped with a Bushnell Elite Tactical 4-12X40.

Special note: This rifle is EXACTLY as arrived from factory. No special trigger or other alturations.
Know what, I have been reading other posts on Sniper's Hide that the rifle's actually sub - MOA capable with expensive loads.

It'll be great if it'd do the same stuff an M14 does...

Next time, I'll try out the Hensoldt SSG - P and see what it's capable of!

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From Aaron556 at AR15.com: SIG 516, EOTech Scope, 50 yard group.

SIG516 FDE Gen2 Range Report - AR15.COM

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I finally made it out to the range early Saturday morning. The weather was beautiful, 66 F without a cloud in the sky. No wind. Since this was my first time making it to the range this early in the morning I didn't account for the sun being directly behind my target. I was shooting pretty much directly into the sun which was horrible. I don't think this was thought out very well when this place was built. I was using an Eotech EXPS3-0 in FDE and the sun made it very difficult to get a crisp sight picture, but I did the best I could do.

I rested the SIG516 on a crappy rest that I was using for the very first time. I got it because it was cheap. I found that I had to pretty much adjust windage and elevation on the rest after EVERY shot which was really annoying. This thing was just too light to be effective, but it was better than my sandbag. I was using Lake City M855 62gr "green tip" ammo. I shot a total of about 200 rounds without a single malfunction of any kind. The trigger pull was better than average. A little better than my BCM. You can kinda stage the trigger which does help. I only used the NORMAL setting on the gas regulator. Next range trip I may try ADVERSE just to see what it feels like.

I made some slight modifications to my SIG516 prior to shooting it for the first time. I replaced the stock Cam Pin with the POF Roller Cam Pin. I'm happy to report that after 200 rounds there is ZERO wear from Cam Pin gouging on the inside of the upper receiver. The inside of my SIG516 is also Cerakoted in FDE and the finish in that area is perfectly fine. Now, I know Cam Pin gouging is perfectly normal and doesn't effect performance (my BCM has it), but I thought I would try this. The other modification I made was to replace the stock Buffer (3.7oz) with the Spikes Tactical ST-T2 Heavy Buffer (4oz). I use this Buffer on my BCM and I like it. I also removed the gas rings from the bolt. SIG Customer Service told me that they are not needed. The last modification I made was to use the BCMGUNFIGHTER Charging Handle w/ Mod 4 (MEDIUM) Latch.

The following picture was taken after shooting at 50 yards using the Eotech. Like I said previously the sun was in my eyes. Normally, I like to dim the red dot down to the point where I can just barely see it (makes the dot smaller) so that my groupings are tighter. In this case I had to crank up the brightness setting just to see the dot in the sun. I'm sure I could have had tighter groups and when I do I'll be sure to post them. I have read many reports of the SIG516 shooting 1 MOA to sub-MOA @ 100 yards.





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From cheshier2 at Sniper's Hide: SIG 516, C - More Scope, AAC M4 - 2000 Suppressor, 100 yard group.

http://forum.snipershide.com/snipers...ge-report.html

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Well I deceied to keep 1 of the Sig 516 Piston guns I received last week. I am using a AAC M4-2000 suppressor, C-more red dot with a 2MOA dot. I had a bad *** Armalite I tricked out that was a shooter for the past 10 years, if its not broke dont fix it right.. So i thought lets try this thing out. Once I got it sighted in I LOVE IT..Anyways I will let the pics do the talking.
That is A 10 shot group in the head
My reloads at 100 yards
53 grain Sierra Match
Acurate 2200 powder, CCI primer

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IMG_2185.JPG SJC Titan comp. 4x12x40 Leupold 60 rounds at 100 yards. I'm pleased with the results.
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From Echo17 at WarriorTalk: SIG 556R, Iron Sights, 50 yard group.

My SIG 556R Range Report

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My Dad and I took the SIG 556Rs out to the range today to get them sighted in. I just cant get over what a sweet little rifle it is. Definitely drew a good bit of attention, especially when we checked targets!

I am currently running just an MI front and a TROY rear flip up sight on mine until I can swing a TA-33 from Onesource. The sights were almost dead on and it only took 2 rotations of the front sight to get me about 1 inch high at 50 yards which seems about perfect for a battle zero. Here is a picture of my 2nd 5 round group off the bench just to show raw accuracy potential of these rifles. Ammo is 123grn HP from ULY.......



We are absolutely in love with these rifles and cant say enough good things about the service we received from Onesource! Seriously guys, I had my doubts at first about this gun just being more "tacticool hype" but this thing is the real deal, runs smoother than my topnotch AR, light weight, handles incredibly fast and extremely accurate and more importantly easy to shoot for its class, gotta love the SIGs! Now I just need a few more!
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POF makes them for both their 5.56 and 7.62mm rifles.

I use them in both.
Yeah, I read that that you did

Not to distract from the "MOARRT" but I thought I might bring up the fact that Sig already took care of the cam pin gouge problem, they machined a slight angle on the upper to do away with it on both the 516 & the 716.

I took the liberty of looking around to see if there were any pics before I took one of mine (it's a black version & hard to see) & I found an FDE version with a red circle drawn around the offending area on M4carbine.net post #69 second picture; it's really easy to see on the FDE upper. Sig was thinking when they designed these rifles, I'll be eager to see if someone does a side by side on new rifles to see if the roller cam pin is even needed on these Sigs.

Sorry for the distraction; I'll be mozey'n along now.....
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Not to distract from the "MOARRT" but I thought I might bring up the fact that Sig already took care of the cam pin gouge problem, they machined a slight angle on the upper to do away with it on both the 516 & the 716.
You're right, they did!...

Seems like the guy who did the 516 and 716 wanted to get everyone's pet peeves and design shortcomings done away with.

"MOARRT" sounds good!...
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From MedicMan218 at PerfectUnion: SIG 556, Sun Optics Scope (1x?), 50 yard groups.

Sig Sauer 556 Range Report *PICS* - Shooting Sports Forum

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Went out today to break in my new Sig 556 with Sun Optics USA zero power sight, kinda looks like an ACOG but deffinitly isn't!
All shots were at 50 yards with Monarch 55gr steel cased .223. Only one failure to fire out of 280 rounds. The striker hit the round but no combustion. I'm gonna blame the ammo, not the rifle.



After many, many, many, many, many adjustments I decided this was as close as I was going to get to a true zero.



This was my second target after the zeroing in process. 30 rounds all inside the square! Pretty good grouping except for those two little wanderers there on the bottom right.



Third fresh target after zero. I was having trouble hitting the smaller squares in the corners because at the 50 yard mark the reticle completely occluded the target making it next to impossible to visualize. Then, out of nowhere I got the idea to reduce the intensity (power/brightness) of the reticle so I could kind of see thought it and still be able to put it on target. I couldn't believe it took me so long to figure that out....it seriously was like a light bulb moment, I felt kind of silly about not thinking of it sooner. After that minor adjustment I wore out that top right!!!!
30 rounds in each square.

All in all I'd have to say that I am extremely pleased with the days events and the accuracy of my current set up. hopefully it will be just as accurate at 100 yards once I get either a powered scope or a magnafier for my current sight. ohhhhh the possibilities
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