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Old 06-15-2013, 06:49 PM   #1
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Now that I have a 716 and 556R to compare and evaluate, I will pass on my opinions. If you can only afford one Quality Sig "plinker", the following info may help guide you to which weapon to have.
556R:
I like the boltcarrier and bolt concept compared to the standard AR bolt w/rings.
There is more access for cleaning the chamber and bolt locking lugs.
Smoother OEM trigger-pull, therefore no need to install after-market trigger.
Having a short torso and arms, the 556R is perfect for me. The collapsible stock on the 716 is OK, but after I adjust it for me, I would never adjust again.
556R's two-position gas port valve is all anyone should need. The multi-position gas port valve on the 716 is another feature I don't need because I would never let my weapon get that dirty that I need a "full-open" gas valve position.
The 556R is a more practical and economical plinker than the 716.
I like the cleaner looks and feel of the 556R's hand-guard. The media has tried to convince us that we need Picatinny rails everywhere. Now that we have so many rails, we must buy a "gadget" to attach to each rail.
The folding stock? I can take it or leave it, but most important to me is that the stock is the right size for me.
My CP1 scope died after ten rounds! I'm waiting for MI front and rear sights to get here.
If you are considering purchasing a 556R or 716, I suggest you wait until you can handle both weapons to determine the best practical choice.
I use only new United States manufactured ammo.
I'm keeping all of my .308 Match ammo for my Remington 700 SPS Stainless Fluted Barreled serious shooting target / varmint weapon.
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Old 06-15-2013, 07:02 PM   #2
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I like the 556 also.
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Old 06-15-2013, 07:15 PM   #3
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I like the 716, don't have one yet.

I really like the M1A, but their top-of-the-line model the M21 Tactical retails for about $5000.00. OUCH!! That's a lot of money.

Probably can buy 3 716's for that kind of money, with ammo ta-boot

The only SIG rifle I have is the 516. I am extremely pleased with its accuracy. It's the most accurate AR I own. Sub MOA @100yds. You can put a penny over the bullet print on the target, using a rifle rest of coarse.

Nice rifle (556R) you have there. The little brother of the 7.62x51. Gots to have one of those too.


Thank you LeatherNeck.


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I have a Springfield M1A Super National Match which I purchased about four years ago, and I think I paid close to $3100.00. Being a former Marine, the M-14 was my best "buddy" for many years. The issue with the Super National Match versions is that they are not intended to be continuously field-stripped because of the method used to maintain the tight tolerance of the bed-to-receiver fit. Save your money and buy a standard M1A and have fun! Wood or synthetic stock made no difference to us. You can field-strip over and over and over. You will not need to purchase National Match iron sights, because the standard issued iron sights will provide good (if not perfect) results up to 500 + yards. At two-hundred yards in the standing off-hand firing position, hitting empty 1 gallon paint cans gets boring. .308 ammo is expensive, so, ten to fifteen rounds at one range session is plenty. My personal opinion, with the exception of being a sniper, installing a scope on a perfectly good MIA is an insult to the M-14. Get perfected with using the iron sights. You can kill a wolf at 200+ yards and a full size buck at 300 yards.
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At one time or another, we have told ourselves; "If I had to do it all over again, etc. etc."
Well.....if I had to do it all over again, I would buy the 556R in lieu of the 716 for my plinker and all-around do anything rifle.
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I also agree that the 556 is the better choice. I have a 556 and have shot several 716s. My choice for the larger caliber is the 30-06 M1 Garand. I have found that I can hit anything I want with it out to 100 yards with the iron sights.
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Yesterday, just for giggles I purchased a new Nikon ProStaff 3-9x40 for my own Father's Day gift to myself. I've never been a parent, but what the heck, the price was right. I installed the scope on the 556R and just returned from the range. I just had to know if the junk CP1 was truly junk, or was it me. I should have never second-guessed myself and purchased the new scope. Using 124 FMJ American Eagle ammo, 556R held a very respectable 3-round X 1-1/2" group at 100 yards. I managed to fire ten rounds before I surrendered to the mosquitos. My research indicates the 7.62 X 39 will drop 6.5" at the 200 yard line when sighted-in at the 100 yard. The NRA folks arrived for a scheduled Hunter Safety Course for new hunters, therefore I cancelled my 200 yard test. So...now I have a new (spare) scope and piece of mind because my evaluation of the CP1 was correct. Being that the scope is attached to the rail with two heavy-duty quick release mounts, I will remove the scope and install the iron sights when they arrive tomorrow.
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It's matter of personal opinion, others will feel differently for one reason or another. I like the 7.62x51mm & I like piston rifles. I also like 5.56x45mm & "internal piston" (DI) AR's too so *meh*

You should go onto Amazon's site & review the CPI; only one person gace it one star & one three stars, the rest rave about it.
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I personally would like both. 556R is a lot cheaper to shoot though.
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Yesterday, just for giggles I purchased a new Nikon ProStaff 3-9x40 for my own Father's Day gift to myself. I've never been a parent, but what the heck, the price was right. I installed the scope on the 556R and just returned from the range. I just had to know if the junk CP1 was truly junk, or was it me. I should have never second-guessed myself and purchased the new scope. Using 124 FMJ American Eagle ammo, 556R held a very respectable 3-round X 1-1/2" group at 100 yards. I managed to fire ten rounds before I surrendered to the mosquitos. My research indicates the 7.62 X 39 will drop 6.5" at the 200 yard line when sighted-in at the 100 yard. The NRA folks arrived for a scheduled Hunter Safety Course for new hunters, therefore I cancelled my 200 yard test. So...now I have a new (spare) scope and piece of mind because my evaluation of the CP1 was correct. Being that the scope is attached to the rail with two heavy-duty quick release mounts, I will remove the scope and install the iron sights when they arrive tomorrow.

A 200 yard zero makes the 100 to 300 yard transitions easy with the CMR scope. Anything beyond 300 is going off a cliff. Still, it is equal or greater than a 40 SW at the muzzle.

Most other folks will do a much Point Blank Range of 4" or so so they can center mass with a single hold to just passed 200yds. I think this battle zero is 21 yards or so.
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