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Old 12-03-2016, 03:09 PM   #16
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Note that it says "Leadtime Applies". 2-3 year lead time.
Understand all. But, I have seen a 16" MCX in 300BLK at Gander MTN. I guess they are filling military, leo first?
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Old 12-03-2016, 05:20 PM   #17
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Like others out there, I think the MCX is a fine rifle. I bought mine because Sig promised the conversion kits would be shipping within months. That was 2 years ago. I certainly didn't buy it just to have yet another 5.56 around. I also happen to be a big fan of 7.62x39, a proven round that's dirt cheap. I know my limitations, and won't be using it for anything more than hogs or deer and plinking/blasting/fun at close range. The MCX is pretty much a 'handy' size rifle good for most anything, and for me, the 7.62x39 would have been perfect. It may happen some day, but in the meantime there are other offerings out there that can be had right now (er, maybe, I haven't ordered more than one other 7.62x39 since the MCX debacle).
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Old 12-03-2016, 07:19 PM   #18
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New to this forum. I too own a MCX in 5.56. love the rifle. I did buy a SRD 762ti silencer paid for the stamp. Did a stamp for a SBR to convert the MCX to 300 blackout. I too am getting highly frustrated as Sig CS keeps telling me soon...nothing like paying $400 in stamps and $750 for a silencer I cannot use with 5.56. So, I feel for you. I am in the same crappy situation. I have had both my stamps since August. Perhaps I will just move on and build a 300 blackout. Any suggestions on my position and how to move on? feel like I'm chasing rainbows with Sig.
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New to this forum. I too own a MCX in 5.56. love the rifle. I did buy a SRD 762ti silencer paid for the stamp. Did a stamp for a SBR to convert the MCX to 300 blackout. I too am getting highly frustrated as Sig CS keeps telling me soon...nothing like paying $400 in stamps and $750 for a silencer I cannot use with 5.56. So, I feel for you. I am in the same crappy situation. I have had both my stamps since August. Perhaps I will just move on and build a 300 blackout. Any suggestions on my position and how to move on? feel like I'm chasing rainbows with Sig.
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Yeah, same here! Obviously, our 762 cans are fine, but the SBR stamps are specific to these MCX lowers. We should soon know what SIG's post election production decision will be. If it's more of the same delay into the unknown - a new SBR 300 platform seems reasonable to me...

Should add that if that's what we end up doing - We shouldn't go away quietly, SIG should hear LOUDLY from all of us!!

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Yeah, ordered one through them a while back. Still haven't heard a thing and they took at 25-30% (can't remember which) as a deposit. Probably not the best idea but I'm reasonably patient.
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Feel your pain

I just received my MCX pistol that I have been waiting over 6 months for. Much to my dismay, the barrel is 11.5" not 9" as advertised. All my literature and e-mail correspondence assured me that the gun would have a 9" barrel. When I called Sig I was informed the performance of the gun was so poor with a 9" barrel that they had to lengthen it. Why not put that out on your website? Why hide that from the consumer? The customer support rep I spoke with offered me a replacement barrel in 300BLK for $475.00. Are you kidding? I suppressed the gun and have all my SBR papers already mailed. Talk about a crock. I will never trust them. Almost criminal.
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I just received my MCX pistol that I have been waiting over 6 months for. Much to my dismay, the barrel is 11.5" not 9" as advertised. All my literature and e-mail correspondence assured me that the gun would have a 9" barrel. When I called Sig I was informed the performance of the gun was so poor with a 9" barrel that they had to lengthen it. Why not put that out on your website? Why hide that from the consumer? The customer support rep I spoke with offered me a replacement barrel in 300BLK for $475.00. Are you kidding? I suppressed the gun and have all my SBR papers already mailed. Talk about a crock. I will never trust them. Almost criminal.
So, unlike other manufacturers, they have poor performance out of 9 inch barrel.
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I just received my MCX pistol that I have been waiting over 6 months for. Much to my dismay, the barrel is 11.5" not 9" as advertised. All my literature and e-mail correspondence assured me that the gun would have a 9" barrel. When I called Sig I was informed the performance of the gun was so poor with a 9" barrel that they had to lengthen it. Why not put that out on your website? Why hide that from the consumer? The customer support rep I spoke with offered me a replacement barrel in 300BLK for $475.00. Are you kidding? I suppressed the gun and have all my SBR papers already mailed. Talk about a crock. I will never trust them. Almost criminal.
Sorry I'm confused. Did you receive an 11.5" in 5.56 or 300 BLK?
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I have an MCX carbine and love it. It shoots sub-MOA groups all day long. Excellent.

On October 16 2015, I ordered a 9" 5.56 MCX pistol from Cabela's. It finally arrived about three weeks ago. I drove 80 miles to pick it up and it was an 11.5", not the 9" I ordered. They called Sig and were told that they wouldn't be making any 9" 5.56 MCX pistols. This after I waited more than a year for one. I got a refund and order a 9" (as advertized) MCX pistol in 5.56 off GunBroker. Two days later I received it and guess what, it too was an 11.5". My dealer called Sig CS and was told that they wouldn't be, never intended to, and had never built the MCX 5.56 pistol in a 9" barrel configuration. Unbelievable! I went to their web site and there it was in a 9" barrel. Two days later Sig had a new web site and only the 11.5" pistol was offered. The 9" had just gone away. Imagine that.

I kept the 11.5" from GunBroker, but it has a long hand guard (with 11 key-mod slots) so I can't even install a 9" 300BO kit even if it ever does become available. I'll have to either get a different hand guard or a complete new upper. What are the odds of either of those happening?

As a customer, I am extremely frustrated with Sig Sauer. They simply will not communicate. Not with their dealers. Not with their CS reps. Not with their customers.

Although they announce more products than they ever ship, Sig does produce some awesome products nonetheless. However, if they continue to disrespect their customers, who's going to buy them? I believe they need NEW LEADERSHIP, NEW MANAGEMENT, and a NEW CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED BUSINESS STRATEGY (caps for emphasis just in case anyone from Sig is reading). After all, if their customers are not happy, how can they ultimately be successful?
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I hope all of you realize that a short barrel 5.56 loses a lot of velocity and the bullet doesn't perform as designed. The 5.56 needs high velocity to yaw, then tumble at impact with resultant separation and breakup, causing irreplaceable damage. A slow moving 5.56 will simply punch through the meat and cause very little damage, much like a .22 LR. The only benefit to short barrels is if you're shooting slower, heavier ammo, such as the 300 Blackout or the 7.62x39, which don't depend on velocity for effectiveness.

Ok, going to hide behind the couch now for the expected replies...
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Obviously, SIG has done a horrible job keeping their website up to date & communicating with their dealers and customers. Sig's CEO Ron Cohen seems to run SIG Sauer, Inc as if he were still serving as a combat field commander in the Israeli Army...

But - I think Mr Smoky makes a good point. I'm NO ballistics expert, but <10" barrel on 5.56 may not be a great choice.

Another factor may be SIG's silencer offerings in 5.56/223. Other suppressor OEMs suggest barrel lenghts of 10" or more in this caliber. For example, Surefire makes a different 5.56 can for barrels <10" saying potentially unstable rounds require larger baffles & end cap openings. Since SIG doesn't offer such a <10" 5.56 specific silencer, seems reasonable they would exit that 'market segment' in their catalog for this caliber.

300Blk is a very different cartridge that as Mr Smoky mentions, use much heaver bullets traveling at slower velocities - and I'll add also uses much faster burning powders.

I'm told that these 300Blk propellants are designed to fully combust in a 9" barrel, where as a typical 5.56 round has significnat unburned powder in such a short barrel...

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Old 12-09-2016, 01:03 PM   #27
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'Cause that's not what they were selling. All the hype about "barrel kits" aren't materializing after a couple years of lies and promises. I have no mercy for them at this point.
Flashbacks of the ACR rifle.....too bad they didn't pursue caliber and magwell options aggressively. It would have been phenomenal.
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You know at least some MF hold to their word on conversion kits.

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With the lack of support I just sold my MCX and at this point I'm sure I'll never buy a Sig again. Ya I'm sure I'll get passed and told to leave but come on look at the **** they been showing off at the Shot Show and media events and what did we get nothing new in accessories.
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Sig is like Burger King, they keep trying and trying, and keep failing as they cant make the same quality, and quantity in all the crazy configurations.. Stick with the Whoppers(226, 229, 239, 225 etc etc), they worked. Stop trying to reinvent everything.
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