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Old 01-10-2017, 11:10 PM   #121
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Those are my real world prices

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You offered me the same thing, Offer people real world prices and see how many you get. Sig's BS cost people money, period!! Say what you will, they should have upgraded everyone from Gen 1 to Gen 2 under warranty.
That is a real world price considering i have to deal with recall if I were to purchase your firearm and go through all that **** multiple occasions.Time is money.This easily could turn out to be a 6 month delay or more if what everyone else says is true.I'm just biting my tongue until I see for myself as I have not had anything but good experiences with sig.
Notably however I have not been a long time sig fan and have not been exposed to a smidgeon of what others have.Therefor i still have hope, and hopefully it's not false hope. This could be my first SIGnificant disaster and I'm horrible once bitten. Gen 1 to Gen 2 is specifically what,I thought that was what they were doing ,unless there are other gen 2 refinements I'm unaware of, which is entirely possible.
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Old 01-11-2017, 04:52 AM   #122
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No. Unfortunately that program is gone.
In all seriousness, I am not just saying this to be shitty as it was the one thing I liked about Sig, they really killed the 20% off program on top of everything else?
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That is a real world price considering i have to deal with recall if I were to purchase your firearm and go through all that **** multiple occasions.Time is money.This easily could turn out to be a 6 month delay or more if what everyone else says is true.I'm just biting my tongue until I see for myself as I have not had anything but good experiences with sig.
Notably however I have not been a long time sig fan and have not been exposed to a smidgeon of what others have.Therefor i still have hope, and hopefully it's not false hope. This could be my first SIGnificant disaster and I'm horrible once bitten. Gen 1 to Gen 2 is specifically what,I thought that was what they were doing ,unless there are other gen 2 refinements I'm unaware of, which is entirely possible.
The Barrels would have to be replaced to get the Gen 2 upgrades such as the op rod being built into the piston (no need to swap op rods for different calibers), user adjustable gas block, and there are also some differences on the upper receiver itself.

So you are only getting a new bolt carriage design not the complete Gen 2 upgrade, no. Then the MPX fiasco
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The Barrels would have to be replaced to get the Gen 2 upgrades such as the op rod being built into the piston (no need to swap op rods for different calibers), user adjustable gas block, and there are also some differences on the upper receiver itself.

So you are only getting a new bolt carriage design not the complete Gen 2 upgrade, no. Then the MPX fiasco
I SEE.
Ty for your response.I indeed have an adjustable gas block so I guess I have the Gen 2.
Just when you think you know something well enough.
Their not getting my SSA-e trigger group until I try it with the new Bolt carrier group.I probably haven't put 300 rounds through my MCX since i installed the trigger.
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Old 01-12-2017, 01:44 AM   #125
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A Sig rep called on 1/11 on another matter and i managed to ask about the bolt carriage recall on my MCX. He asked if i had registered. I registered on 1/2 and had not received the box. He said I would "soon." Then I asked the pregnant question: turnaround time. He said they have a priority. It might not be a week or even two, but turnaround would be prompt. I said that would be a long time to have my MCX out of action due to the expected foreign power invasion. He said Sig would do its best. At that point I said i had a Geissele trigger but had not installed it. He said Sig had not tested third party triggers but believed they were incompatable. i said that a Geissele CS rep had phoned me last week to say that the 3Gun trigger (actually instaled) in my MCX would operate well through many thousands of rounds but that, eventually, the fast MCX action would remove material from the hammer and that the rifle would fail to reset. He said Geissele would stand behind its warranty, possibly because I purhased my trigger before Geissele posted its warning not to use it triggers in MCX and MPX rifles. He expounded on the current R&D program to produce a trigger this year for the fast action MCX and MPX rifles. So, I will continue to fire my MCX with the Geissele trigger. I will wait some time before I commit my rifle to the slow turnaround for the replacement bold carriage assembly. Still havent gotten my 7.62 or 300 BO exchange barrels ordered last July, promised by the end of summer. Which summer??
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Reading all of this, it's a total joke. It appears the MCX will not have AR15/M16 spec FCG. We have to wait and see if Sig can deliver on turn around time. Just Sad.
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I spoke to Sig CS yesterday about what the deal is with the Geissele SSA trigger and the carriage assembly issue. I was told that they wanted me to send the entire rifle back for them to install the new carriage assembly and ensure the Geissele SSA trigger will work properly with the new carriage assembly. They will run a battery of tests prior to sending it back to me and expect two weeks at Sig for this work to be done. There are no plans to swap out the Geissele trigger.

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Old 01-12-2017, 09:35 PM   #128
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Dumped the MCX for a DD v11. Definitely learned my lesson and couldn't be happier.
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I had an MCX 300BO with the problem they are addressing with this recall. It would slamfire 5+ times on a mag and very often when dropping the bolt on a round. That particular rifle also had issues with the gas regulator - very difficult to remove for cleaning, required smacking it with punch and hammer.

I sent it to Sig for repairs under warranty. They replaced the trigger and stated that could not replicate the slamfire and didn't address the gas regulator issue. I took it to the range and had the same issues. It was pretty obvious that the floating firing pin was the cause - if I ejected a loaded round that did not slamfire, the primer indentation from the firing pin was pretty pronounced. I tried to find a spring for the firing pin but didn't find one. I sold the thing and moved on from Sig.

From the press release (emphasis mine):

"SIG has found through extensive factory testing that in extremely rare instances, not reported in the field and extremely difficult to replicate, a condition may exist causing an unintended discharge."

Right... I was shooting by loading one round at a time afraid the thing would go full auto on me releasing the bolt would still set the round off often). Tried several brands of ammo including Sig. No, it wasn't rare and not difficult at all to replicate. A shitty company with poor QC and customer service.
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I had an MCX 300BO with the problem they are addressing with this recall. It would slamfire 5+ times on a mag and very often when dropping the bolt on a round. That particular rifle also had issues with the gas regulator - very difficult to remove for cleaning, required smacking it with punch and hammer.

I sent it to Sig for repairs under warranty. They replaced the trigger and stated that could not replicate the slamfire and didn't address the gas regulator issue. I took it to the range and had the same issues. It was pretty obvious that the floating firing pin was the cause - if I ejected a loaded round that did not slamfire, the primer indentation from the firing pin was pretty pronounced. I tried to find a spring for the firing pin but didn't find one. I sold the thing and moved on from Sig.
Thanks for sharing your slam-firing 300Blk MCX experience. Glad no one was hurt!! We haven't seen many of these, but obviously the current MCX recall is necessary...

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How does the return process work? I have received my box and have repacked my assembly into the foam box. Placed the packaging tape and smart label... I don't know how this works.... Does the smart label know to return to me? Because I had a ship to and bill on the packing slip and it wasn't my name (slip inside empty box).... I discarded that is that fine? Please help thanks
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Gee, kinda bummed. This is my first AR and I've only run about 10 rounds through it. I wouldn't even know about this bolt issue if it wasn't for nutnfancy. I spent a lot time researching ARs and bought an MCX based on other sigs i'm happy with and nutnfancy's review. Upgraded with a velocity trigger and bought a Romeo last week.
Anyhow, I registered, and made a dozen calls to sig all day with no luck getting through... I can see this is going to consume a lot of my time until this issue is completely resolved.
I might just wait a few weeks till the rush dies down. Another concern is that I hope sig took the time to properly resolve this issue and the didn't jump the "gun" with a hasty fix.
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How does the return process work? I have received my box and have repacked my assembly into the foam box. Placed the packaging tape and smart label... I don't know how this works.... Does the smart label know to return to me? Because I had a ship to and bill on the packing slip and it wasn't my name (slip inside empty box).... I discarded that is that fine? Please help thanks
I wondered about that as well. My packing slip had my name on it, so I put it in the shipping box even though it's probably not needed. I took it to the post office on 1/11. We'll see how long it takes.

From their website:
"A new assembly, designed with the firing pin locking mechanism, will be shipped out to you within 5-7 working days of the receipt of your parts at no cost to you."

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I called the customer support about 2 weeks ago and they have told me that they would send out a box for my MCX with Geissele SSA trigger in it. I still haven't received the box yet or an email. Perhaps they forgot my information? I will give them a call again next week.
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Gee, kinda bummed. This is my first AR and I've only run about 10 rounds through it. I wouldn't even know about this bolt issue if it wasn't for nutnfancy. I spent a lot time researching ARs and bought an MCX based on other sigs i'm happy with and nutnfancy's review. Upgraded with a velocity trigger and bought a Romeo last week.

Anyhow, I registered, and made a dozen calls to sig all day with no luck getting through... I can see this is going to consume a lot of my time until this issue is completely resolved.

I might just wait a few weeks till the rush dies down. Another concern is that I hope sig took the time to properly resolve this issue and the didn't jump the "gun" with a hasty fix.


Do you have the 5.56 barrel? If so, I wouldn't worry about rushing to exchange the assembly. I have over 1500 rounds in my MCX. Incredibly accurate and reliable. Sure having the gen 2 assembly is something you will want to get but as long as you stick to 5.56 and make sure to install the recoil spring properly, you should be just fine. I'm in no hurry to contact Sig about my MCX.
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