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Old 04-25-2017, 07:16 AM   #1
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ATF reverses standing on brace

Now acceptable to shoulder the brace.

BREAKING: ATF Reverses Position on SB Tactical's Pistol Stabilizing Brace
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:20 AM   #2
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Actually, these are pistols, not rifles.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:34 AM   #3
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Actually, these are pistols, not rifles.
Please correct me if I am wrong but the MPX discussion is listed under rifles on this forum and that is where I find all the topics on it, even the pistol configurations.

Additional discussion on this forum; Legal to shoulder SB Tactical Brace!

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Does that mean they're not pistols? There is a MPX rifle and a pistol, so discussion on the pistol may be found under a rifle forum, but not likely the initial OP. The link you provided is under "guns," not Sig Sauer Rifles. Not only that, but this is a duplicate thread. Not trying to be a dick, just informative.

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I don't get it? I am well aware the MPX comes in both versions. The point is the vast majority, over 98% of the MPX pistol discussions are under the rifle section. A quick search under the pistol section showed no MPX topics. I did not design the forum just posted where I found the subject area most utilized. The additional link I provided was just to further the discussion. I can provide twenty links from the last few days on MPX pistol discussions all from the rifle section. I am not trying to start a pissing match my first day as a member here but I don't follow your part of this conversation.
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I wonder if / when we can get a copy of the ATF letter(s) as I've actually been questioned about my SB Tactical MPX brace by more that one RSO.
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Yeah!! Here's a BIG shout-out to SB Tactical, along with their attorney for a 2yr effort to get this ridiculous '15 BATF opinion clarified!!

FYI - Here's a link to this ATF letter of March 21, 2017

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzxy6ojxd1...21.17.pdf?dl=0

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Yeah!! Here's a BIG shout-out to SB Tactical, along with their attorney for a 2yr effort to get this ridiculous '15 BATF opinion clarified!!

FYI - Here's a link to this ATF letter of March 21, 2017

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzxy6ojxd1...21.17.pdf?dl=0

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Thank you for the link sir!
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so you can shoulder all sb tactical braces now on the MPX PISTOL???
You can shoulder ALL SB braces period, doesn't matter what their attached to. Check out the second article mentioned in this thread,

Legal to shoulder SB Tactical Brace!
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About bloody time! I had to SBR my MCX pistol because of that asinine ruling.
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Today I went to the shooting range at Adventure Outdoors just outside of Atlanta, and after I was done shooting, one of the guys who worked there said "you never showed us your stamp."

I replied- "sorry, what?"

"Your tax stamp on your SBR. We need to see it"

"I have a pistol with a pistol brace"

"That's a shoulder stock"

So I pull the MPX out of the bag and show him the brace, and say "this is definitely a pistol brace"

"That's a shoulder stock"

Then he said something about how if you hold that against your shoulder, it's now a shoulder stock; it's an SBR, and he now needs to see my NFA tax stamp.

I asked him if he was familiar with the letter that the ATF released about a week ago, stating that the SB Tactical brace can be fired from the shoulder.

He said, "That letter hasn't gone into effect yet"

He also said "That letter only refers to inadvertently shoulder the brace, which you were not doing"

I wasn't going to sit there and argue with him... I could tell it would be a complete waste of time, and regardless of what I could tell him, we weren't going to come to an agreement. He appeared to have the demeanor that he was right, I was wrong, and there was no convincing him otherwise.
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J45404 - Very sad!! Am sure the ownership of this range actually want shooters to come to their facility - and pay good money for that access. Uninformed and thoughtless harassment probably doesn't support their interest.

If in a weak moment, you ever decide to give them another chance, suggest that you bring along a copy of the recent ATF 'clarification' letter and ask to see the management of this range. They may not know about this outrageous employee, and would probably greatly appreciate learning about your experience.

Heck, a brief phone call may help too...

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Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of "little man" syndrome going on there. As in, since he jumped through the hoops to get a stamp, he's going to be a total dick and make life hard on folks that haven't gotten the stamp.
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Today I went to the shooting range at Adventure Outdoors just outside of Atlanta, and after I was done shooting, one of the guys who worked there said "you never showed us your stamp."
If he's not ATF or law enforcement then what business does he have inspecting NFA stamps?
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