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Old 12-11-2012, 09:55 AM   #1
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sling included with 516

Hi there,
I've been playing with different configurations with the sling that came from Sig with my 516. I can't for the life of me figure out what the purpose of the side release buckle is? This sling has QD swivels and stitching everywhere so that nothing can be removed. I've set it up one point, two point, and three point and I still can't find a use for that buckle.
Anybody got any ideas? Not a big deal, but inquiring minds want to know.

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Old 12-11-2012, 10:44 AM   #2
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Its a weird sling. I took mine put it in the safe and attach my magpul. Problem solved
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:29 AM   #3
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Absolutely a weird sling, but somebody must have had a reason for putting it together that way. My brain won't let go!!
I may have to grab my rifle and go sling hunting tomorrow.

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:08 PM   #4
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That's a three-point sling. When the buckle is buckled it's in its usual position for carrying on a foot patrol or whatever. If you get into a fire fight or otherwise have to employ your rifle you can quickly unbuckle the buckle which allows you to more fully extend the rifle and operate the weapon with a little more freedom of movement. I guess you could say unbuckling the buckle turns it into a quasi-one-point sling. It comes in handy, however since it also causes the sling to tighten up around the operator, it makes the sling more difficult to remove while it's unbuckled.

Personally, I prefer a regular one-point for a carbine-length rifle, but I'm short, so I always liked a 3-point sling for full-length M16s.

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:01 PM   #5
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Hey Oak...I have been experimenting too and talking to an aquaintance who is familiar with tac ops...+1 to what trav said..Also...buckle function is more apt to be deployed in a scenario that allows you to unbuckle, swing the weapon around to your side (for me the left) with weapon vertical along side your body to free up hands and front of your body to complete other tasks, Some tac guys practice the unbuckle, sling to the side and drawing their sidearm, perhaps for clearing, tight spaces, etc....shorter gun, more manuverability type of thing.

ps; Until demonstrated, I hadn't even thought of the swing to the side mode as I was having trouble getting my head around all the moving parts. With the sling new and a bit stiff, the loops are a little stubborn for that maneuver but once I did it a few times, it made more sense and got much easier.

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Old 12-14-2012, 04:26 AM   #6
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Hey Oak...I have been experimenting too and talking to an aquaintance who is familiar with tac ops...+1 to what trav said..Also...buckle function is more apt to be deployed in a scenario that allows you to unbuckle, swing the weapon around to your side (for me the left) with weapon vertical along side your body to free up hands and front of your body to complete other tasks, Some tac guys practice the unbuckle, sling to the side and drawing their sidearm, perhaps for clearing, tight spaces, etc....shorter gun, more manuverability type of thing.

ps; Until demonstrated, I hadn't even thought of the swing to the side mode as I was having trouble getting my head around all the moving parts. With the sling new and a bit stiff, the loops are a little stubborn for that maneuver but once I did it a few times, it made more sense and got much easier.
Yes, that's another use for the buckle. The "swing to the side mode" is called "transitioning", i.e.--transitioning from one weapon to another. I personally always preferred to leave my weapon in the front rather than push it to the side and behind me for transitioning. I kept my rifle slung in such a way that I could basically just let go of it and it would stay in front of me and not interfer with my pistol draw. Then, if and when I needed to transition back to my rifle it was still there in front of me and I didn't have to go searching for the pistol grip behind me or to the side. It makes for much faster transitioning, but it takes some experimenting to get the sling adjusted right to keep your rifle where it is when you transition.

Whatever purpose you decide to use the sling and buckle for, as doncoyotie mentioned, you should practice using it that way a lot when you're shooting so you get proficient with it.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:25 AM   #7
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All of the above makes sense. Thanks for helping me with seeing this. I've been playing with this sling since reading the above posts, and I'm going to just leave it unbuckled and adjusted for an over the strong side (left for me) shoulder carry. Now when I drop the rifle it goes to a position just in front of my right hip, allowing me clear and easy access to my handgun holstered on my left hip. Rifle acquisition is as easy as grabbing the pistol grip which is about at my belt buckle. I'm sure the rifle would move around a lot if I needed to move a lot with it on sling, but I could also slide it around to my back with muzzle up. Just by grabbing the buttstock, I can bring that directly to my left shoulder and be ready to fire.
Also, I have a fairly large mustache, and have been getting hair pulled out when caught in the joint of the adjustable stock. I cut a piece of bicycle inner tube, removed the butt and slid the inner tube on the buffer tube then reinstalled the buttstock. After bridging the joint with the inner tube there is no longer a hair puller there. Also keeps the slight rattle to a minimum. Since I'm 6'4" and 230 lbs. and don't wear body armor, I can see no reasonable reason for me to worry about collapsing the stock from it's longest position.

Works for me, but I'm new to this stuff,

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Sounds like you're gettin squared away Oak.

I actually found unbuckling as aforementioned quite handy and comfortable to free up my hands, keeping barrel pointed down etc while I tape and change targets and complete menial tasks.

Trav...I am going to have to try and get the sling adjusted similar to what you mentioned for combat scenario rather than unbuckling and trying to draw as it is pretty slow.

I have gotten the sling adjusted pretty tight to where when I unbuckle, gravity takes over and with just a bit of help, my rifle falls pretty naturally putting the butt just under my left armpit which for me is the next best option.

One thing I found that I was doing without realizing it until later, standing straight legged and rigid while shooting my pistol after transition for fear of pogo'ing my barrel as I am not that tall. Actually, I had much more room than I thought but subconciously was worrying about it.

I will keep playing around with different configs on this sling until I get comfortable or can afford a different one.

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I'm glad I found this thread. I'm not sure I totally understand how to use the sling yet. I am a new rifle owner. I have had my 516 for three days and have figured out to take it apart and put it back together. Yet, I can't figure out this sling!
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:06 AM   #11
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I saw that video also, but I guess I'm just extra slow because it didn't really show me how to use it. More like a magician making things happen.
I just unsnapped the clip and use it as a standard two point sling. I'm willing to learn more.

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Just to add to the flow here, I've added an IWC Tri-Glide to all my rifle/shotty slings. This actually replaces one of the Tri-Glides already on your sling. I prefer to use the QD attachments (but, as you will see on their website, not required) and this Tri-Glide allows me to rapidly transition from 2 point to single point and back to 2 point very rapidly, depending on need. I find it gives me a lot of flexibility and saves a lot of fumbling when under duress!

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I saw that video also, but I guess I'm just extra slow because it didn't really show me how to use it. More like a magician making things happen.
I just unsnapped the clip and use it as a standard two point sling. I'm willing to learn more.

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I'm right there with you; I don't get it. I am the sort of person who has to be able to visualize something before I grasp it & I just can't visualize this sling....it seems like it's too short & stitched in too many places.

Upon adjusting it to where it seems it should function the way the demonstrator in the video is showing us it seems to be too short for that. I'm wondering if some of the slings sent out aren't put together wrong; I wish there was a detailed "this is how to use it" instruction posted somewhere so I could figure this out.

Edit: Never mind - I finally figured it out after looking at some enlarged still pics. I'm not gonna go out on a limb & say "I've got it down now & understand all the ways to use it" but I do see the basics.

Attach the QD end with the plastic buckle to the front mount by the sights, attach the rear QD to the lower receiver by the pistol grip & put the loop it forms over your neck & leave the standing webbing between the front QD/Buckle & the rear QD against the weapon. You can then release the buckle to allow the sling to slide which will allow you to extend from the "tight to the body" position.

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I think this sling is worth looking into.

Thinking about one for my 516.



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I think this sling is worth looking into.

Thinking about one for my 516.



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