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Old 01-18-2013, 09:22 AM   #1
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Gen. 1 516

Hi everyone. I just purchased a 516 first generation. I don't have it yet because I have to wait 10 days (California law).

It was sold to me as NIB and had never been fired. I inspected the weapon and it doesn't appear to have been fired aside for the few times at the factory.

My question is having a 1st generation rifle, do I need to retro fit it with anything from the factory? Did the 1st generation 516's have trouble and that's why they updated the rifle so soon.

This is my first AR and I can't wait to shoot it. Any advice to make this rifle safe and reliable would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advanced.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:16 AM   #2
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Nope, seems to me i think there was a discrepancy over the bolt patent from LWRC and sig pulled the BCG's and then I think while that was going on they were revamping the gas regulator from a threaded to a non threaded regulator and with that i think the whole gas block might have seen some redesigning, but nothing on your 1st gen should present any hazards or needs correcting, just a cleaning and the right ammo(5.56) If your going to run .223 the consensus is to switch on over to the 2nd position AKA adverse setting. from there you can run the lower pressure ammo thru it and the BCG should function correctly.if not doing that simple task you might find the gun short stroking and failure to eject issues.
whenyou get a chance go out and shoot the shit out of it and come back with your report, it should be one with you grinning ear to ear!!
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I own a 1st Gen SIG516 and it has been 100% reliable from day one. Not a single issue. The main significant change from 1st to 2nd Gen is a change to the Gas Regulator system. Some people complained to SIG about the Valve been threaded to the Gas Block and been difficult to remove. The 2nd Gen uses a a cam lock design that makes it easier to disassemble for cleaning. Other than that, I believe there a minute changes to the Bolt Carrier but nothing significant.

I also have a 2nd Gen SIG716, and honestly don't feel the 2nd Gen design changes are a must. I'm very happy with both designs.

Hope this helps...
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Wow! This forum is incredible! Thanks for your input. I feel a ton better. A lot of great insight. As soon as I get it, I'm going to shoot it the same day, and I will post a report. Luckily for me, I don't have to worry about ammo because we get the good stuff. Thanks again for your input guys. Please stay safe. -Jerry
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Jerry,

Please make sure you field strip, clean and lube the rifle before you shoot it. It is not recommended to shoot any firearm out of the box without prior inspection, cleaning and proper lubrication. Firearm manufactures assemble the units with oils and grease that are mostly for long storage and not for live fire.

Then you can go and have fun with it without any issues!
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Great advice. I am so anxious to get it, I will take it apart and clean every nook and cranny. I pick it up Wednesday.

Thank you all again for taking the time to answer my post. Stay safe!

-Jerry
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Nice purchase, wish mine came with the forend rails. Got mine earlier this month, used. Shoots great. And dialed in at 25 yrds with my red dot and out to 150 yrds with my scope. Shoots both .223 and 5.56 the same. Dead nuts on.
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I also have a sig 516 and have put about 300 rounds through it and no misfires. steal case 223. wolf ammo, than pmc 556. and federal 556. has been a great rifle. was wondering how many have you guy put through yours, and have you have any misfires yet? What do you think about the gas operated system opposed the the direct impengment?
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I too have run about 300 rounds of different ammo. NOT a single issue. It eats everything I feed it. Found a couple hundred rounds of American Eagle.223 and Federal 5.56 NATO today and will do some shooting next weekend. See how it likes this stuff. Sig did a GREAT job on this rifle.
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Get some high temp anti-seeze from an auto parts store and put some anti-seeze on the threads of of the thingy that threads into the gas block to make it easy to remove after 2,000 rounds for a cleaning.
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Ooh. Good advice. I read that it gets kind of grainy. I have about 600 rounds of reloads that my brother gave me. I'm trying to go Wednesday with my father in law to finally shoot it. He was a weapons instructor for close to 20 years. I'll just feel more comfortable with him there since I have never owned an AR.

I'll let you guys know how it goes with the homemade reloads. Thanks again for the input.

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Finally got to shoot my rifle. 300 rounds of reloads. Rifle was flawless. Thank you all for the great advice. Can't wait to shoot it again.

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1st Gen 516

hello, all. This is my first time on this site and I also have recently purchased a Sig sauer 516 patrol (black). however, I did not realize that there is a generation 2. Therefore, i believe i bought the generation 1. I am just disappointed that the seller did not mention there is a newer model and now i been hearing some people having pin/cleaning issues with their first generation. I live in California and i have been looking for a Sig for quiet awhile and it seems to be out of stock both in stores and online. Overall, I feel happy with the purchase, but i wished i have the newer version. Anyways, I paid 1900 including tax and DROS. I hope this gun is worth it and i cant wait to take it to the shooting range. You u guys think that taking a shooting class will be better since this is my first rifle? ty
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hello, all. This is my first time on this site and I also have recently purchased a Sig sauer 516 patrol (black). however, I did not realize that there is a generation 2. Therefore, i believe i bought the generation 1. I am just disappointed that the seller did not mention there is a newer model and now i been hearing some people having pin/cleaning issues with their first generation. I live in California and i have been looking for a Sig for quiet awhile and it seems to be out of stock both in stores and online. Overall, I feel happy with the purchase, but i wished i have the newer version. Anyways, I paid 1900 including tax and DROS. I hope this gun is worth it and i cant wait to take it to the shooting range. You u guys think that taking a shooting class will be better since this is my first rifle? ty


Hello Asiankid and welcome!


Certain types of professional instruction is usually a good thing. I'd check out the instructors credentials.

The GEN-1 is an excellent rifle. Very little difference than the GEN-2.
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Clean and lube it well. It is a blast to shoot and as smooth as they come. Congratulations!
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