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Old 04-11-2016, 12:20 PM   #1
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Is this "normal" slide wear?

I took my new Sig 1911 Extreme chambered in 45acp out for a test run on Saturday. After putting a box of 50 flawless rounds through the pistol I noticed some wear on the front lower left hand side of the slide. The slide & frame seem to have some interference. It's only the nitron finish & I found no metal shavings. I have thousands of rounds through 4 other Sig 1911 45acp's that I own & none of them have this wear.

I sent Sig CS a pic & email. Here is part of their response, "We see this type of wear often. The reason this is caused is from the slide flexing as it reciprocates, the flexing will naturally cause wear on one side more than the other. Wear on one side is normal for our firearms."

I feel this is not normal but, I'm not an expert. What do you guys think? I attached some pics.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:24 PM   #2
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...., "We see this type of wear often. The reason this is caused is from the slide flexing as it reciprocates, the flexing will naturally cause wear on one side more than the other. Wear on one side is normal for our firearms."...
Wow! What a story!!

It is somewhat common on SIG 1911s lately, unfortunately. But it isn't what I call normal. I call it a poor fit between the dust cover and the slide.

If you look directly at the muzzle (UNLOADED), you'll probably see that the dust cover of the frame is touching the slide. Every single one that I've seen doing that didn't have equal clearance on both sides of the slide's chin.

I would have purchased an Emperor Scorpion 1911 from an LGS not long ago but I saw the same thing on it and passed. It was BNIB and had only been racked in the store by lookers.

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Old 04-11-2016, 02:22 PM   #3
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I am not an expert, but I would be peed off with such wear on $1000 gun after 50 rounds...
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Does the gun function and shoot well?
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This is an interesting post. I bought a new 1911 STX about a year ago. Inspected every square inch of the gun before buying it - no scuffs or scratches.

Took it to the range about 2 months later and put 50 rounds through it. Got home and field stripped the gun and was cleaning it and suddenly noticed a light scuff mark on the lower right front part of the slide.

However, rather than a horizontal, longitudinal scuff, like the OP shows, mine looks like it has been lightly scraped vertically, which led me to believe that I must have inadvertently brushed the slide against the frame when doing my initial field-strip and re-assembly before going to the range. I got some touch-up paint which hides it pretty well, but I am still, a year later, really ticked off that it happened on such a beautiful gun.

Now, after reading this post, I am wondering if maybe there was some slide/frame contact (from flexing, per Sig) that may have caused this. To this day, I swear that I never allowed the slide to scrape against the frame when I was doing my field strip and re-assembly. Maybe Sig's reference to "flexing" could be the source of the problem, but the vertical scuff pattern still makes me think I may have caused the contact. Hard to imagine how any "flexing" could cause the vertical scuff pattern.

Picture is attached. As you can see, it really did not get into the metal, just a partial removal of the black nitron finish.
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Does the gun function and shoot well?
Paul it ran perfect for the box of 50 I put through it. I was worried about running any more through the pistol after I noticed the wear. I'm not worried about dings & scratches I put on my pistols but, this just didn't seem right.

I checked the clearance visually from the muzzle like GBA suggested & it definitely is closer on the left side vs right.

I called back Sig CS & spoke to another rep. I then emailed him the same pics that I sent the original rep. This time I got a "there seems to be something definitely not right w/ your pistol & I'd like you to send us the pistol for repair." The rep immediately sent me a shipping label & my pistol is going back to Sig tomorrow.

I have bought 31 Sig Sauer pistols & rifles & this is the 1st issue I've ever had w/ any of them. I'll update you guys w/ what Sig does to fix my pistol.
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Picture is attached. As you can see, it really did not get into the metal, just a partial removal of the black nitron finish.
I suggest calling Sig CS. The rep (Michael) I spoke to the 2ND time around seemed more willing to get the pistol checked & fixed compared to the 1ST rep that I spoke to.
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I called SIG a few months ago about just refinishing the slide. They said they could refinish it, but all the engraved areas would be covered with black nitron. So, I would lose all the shiny stainless steel cuts in the slide. Not what I would like, that stainless engraving is what makes the gun look so nice. A new slide would cost $300 plus shipping, plus the whole gun would have to go back in order to fit the slide to the frame.

I will just live with the touch-up paint, makes the scuff about 95% invisible. A picture with the applied Birchwood Casey Super Black, Flat Black touch-up paint is attached.
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I have the earlier version of the Tacops, a 1911 Blackwater. I've only fired 200 rounds through it since I got it NIB several years ago. No unusual wear as shown in the OP's pics, and the slide appears to be centered on the frame. Glad to hear Sig is going to remedy the issue. I'm always amazed at how some service staff are resistant and unhelpful, while others are willing to go the extra yard to take care of a customer.
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Update - Sent Sig my pistol last Wednesday. I received a phone call from CS today. The rep told me my frame was slightly out of spec on the left front side & that they would have the frame fixed & slide refinished. Estimated time 2 weeks & for the hassle Sig is sending me 2 free 1911 magazines & the Sig pistol bag. I am happy w/ the outcome & stoked about the free items. A+ on Sigs customer service.
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Good to hear.


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Update - Sent Sig my pistol last Wednesday. I received a phone call from CS today. The rep told me my frame was slightly out of spec on the left front side & that they would have the frame fixed & slide refinished. Estimated time 2 weeks & for the hassle Sig is sending me 2 free 1911 magazines & the Sig pistol bag. I am happy w/ the outcome & stoked about the free items. A+ on Sigs customer service.
I'm glad you got a good CS rep this time and that it is getting corrected!
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Great outcome, thanks for sharing.

The posting of this story and the input you got, given your experience, calls to mind the unnecessary rant that was posted earlier today in the main pistol section.

You da man!
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That's some good news.
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Update - Sent Sig my pistol last Wednesday. I received a phone call from CS today. The rep told me my frame was slightly out of spec
Good for them. I have seen it happen, and about 10 or 15 years ago colt had kind of a rash of them, but as they told you it's because of the "dust cover" being slightly out of spec. When sig first started putting out 1911's their service was pretty bad, but I think they are top notch now. Sig 1911's are a great deal for the money.
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