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Old 06-25-2020, 05:47 PM   #1
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J&J leather shop scam alert!!

This company is a scam! They scammed me on my order. I placed my order and they sent the holster out the same day...great! Or so you’d think. Two weeks later the holster shows up...the wrong holster. Wrong side, wrong model/style, wrong color and it smelled like a skunk. I have heard of leather smelling like a skunk before. A friend has a holster that does. I don’t own one like that.
Anyway, I contacted them the day it arrived, via email link on their site. No phone number available anywhere. Though you can see his house on line (google maps). Yep, works out of his home. Not necessarily a bad thing...unless you’re J&J leather store. So, after 11 days and six messages via email and Facebook messenger, I get this, “ Evening
Which site did you purchase on and what was the order #. and if you could attach a couple of pictures of the holster you received.
J&J”
So I provide all the info and pictures and explain that I’ve been trying to get in contact with them for several days. Well, that is where it ends. Except six more messages from me, asking them for resolution. Never got nasty, other than mentioning the smell. But I only asked about it, if it was normal.
First and only time I hear from them was 12 days ago. Sure, I got a holster, a completely useless holster. I filed a fraud complaint with my credit card bank. These people (person??) couldn’t care less about you, once you pay. Stay away!!! Stay away. His Facebook page has two positive reviews from two years ago. And now, one very negative one!
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Old 06-27-2020, 04:12 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear about you Smelly wrong Holster..

Searching I found:

Website:

https://www.jjleatherstore.com/

Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/s?i=merchant-...=A3V83FBYPK05K

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/JJLeatherHolsters/

Etsy: Last Review June 27th 2020

https://www.etsy.com/listing/2774122...ith-and-wesson
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You buy a $600-$1200 "name" pistola for a reason. Then you go out and buy the cheapest ammo you can find and wonder why it doesn't seem to run in your pistola... Then you go out and buy a holster on the cheap from some no-name, no Rep, holster "company" you found on ebay or Amazon...

Fellas, there is a reason holster makers like Milt Sparks leather, Thad Rybka, Pocket Concealment Systems, John Bianchi (now dba: Frontier Gunleather), Andy Aratoonian (Horseshoe Leather), Ken Null, Galco, etc. have been around for decades. There are some kydex holster producers that excel in that department, but they come and go quickly. Caveat emptor. Buy Once, Cry Once.

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Thanks for posting this so others might not get ripped off.

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I got one for my P365 last year, purchased thru Amazon, and I’m very satisfied with the quality and fit of the holster. Sorry to hear that your experience was not the same. Looked into their Facebook page and the last post is from January.


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I’m also sorry to hear about your experience as I bought one through Amazon for my p365 with a Lima laser and didn’t have any problems. It’s fine for OWB however I’ve been wearing inside with the warmer weather
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There are some kydex holster producers that excel in that department, but they come and go quickly.
Did I miss Safariland going?
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This company is a scam! They scammed me on my order. I placed my order and they sent the holster out the same day...great! Or so you’d think. Two weeks later the holster shows up...the wrong holster. Wrong side, wrong model/style, wrong color and it smelled like a skunk. I have heard of leather smelling like a skunk before. A friend has a holster that does. I don’t own one like that.
Anyway, I contacted them the day it arrived, via email link on their site. No phone number available anywhere. Though you can see his house on line (google maps). Yep, works out of his home. Not necessarily a bad thing...unless you’re J&J leather store. So, after 11 days and six messages via email and Facebook messenger, I get this, “ Evening
Which site did you purchase on and what was the order #. and if you could attach a couple of pictures of the holster you received.
J&J”
So I provide all the info and pictures and explain that I’ve been trying to get in contact with them for several days. Well, that is where it ends. Except six more messages from me, asking them for resolution. Never got nasty, other than mentioning the smell. But I only asked about it, if it was normal.
First and only time I hear from them was 12 days ago. Sure, I got a holster, a completely useless holster. I filed a fraud complaint with my credit card bank. These people (person??) couldn’t care less about you, once you pay. Stay away!!! Stay away. His Facebook page has two positive reviews from two years ago. And now, one very negative one!

I'm not sure what a "fraud complaint" does for you (I've never looked into one). Every time I've had a problem with a seller, all it takes to resolve the issue is to politely tell them your plan is to file a backcharge with the credit card company if the situation is not corrected.

It used to be - and I'm not sure if it still is - that a merchant who had a backcharge filed against them would automatically get penalized $30 (by their merchant account provider). Then the full amount of the purchase price would be taken from the merchant's checking account, and then a minimum 45-day investigation would ensue.

Too many backcharges, and a merchant can lose his merchant account, effectively putting him out of business. If you are a merchant accepting credit cards for payment, you'd better be on the up and up or they'll shut you down. And once a merchant account is cancelled, it's very likely that merchant will never get another account opened.

Once a backcharge is initiated, the purchase price is deducted from the buyer's statement/obligation.

A backcharge is a big-time, money-losing situation for a merchant. Most merchants will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid one.

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