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DAK: Yay or nay?

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#1 ·
I'm looking at a used (obviously) P239 DAK in 357 Sig. Price is very good. Never tried a DAK but I like my S&W 640 DAO revolver and love my P290RS. I understand how the DAK works and wonder how many of you have tried it and what you think. Thanks in advance
 
#3 ·
^^^This.

It's got a long pull, but it's buttery smooth. If you like revolvers you'll probably like it.

The reset thing is neither here nor there for me. I use the regular reset and never even feel the short one. In truth, it's really only there to prevent short-stroking failures under stress.
 
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#9 ·
They are not equal.

HK LEM has a very light take-up, wall, then trigger break. For a light LEM, the trigger break is 4.5-5.5 lbs. For a heavy LEM, the trigger break is 7.5-8.5 lbs. Factory reset lengths for the light and heavy LEMs are the same.

The DAK is a completely different animal. After the first return to battery, the first DA pull weight is constant at 7.5 lbs from start to break. After second return to battery, there are two reset options. First reset to break is 8.5 lbs (for light strikes). Second reset to break is 7.5 lbs (for optimal shooting). Unlike the HK LEM, the DAK has no light take-up and there are two resets. And hence, the DAK is more difficult to learn than the LEM.
 
#12 ·
Just picked up a 229 DAK in 40 S&W from CDNN, and love it. Was issued an H &K USP compact in 40 S&W for a few years, and loved it. Had a 229 DAK(40) that I traded for something else I thought I needed, but always missed that gun. So I remedied the problem with the help of CDNN- like new 229 DAK for $380. Took it to the range for 150 flawless
rounds. As soon as I get a bit more trigger time, and a set of night sights, it will be my new house gun.

While the action is similar to a DA revolver, it is a bit different. Would recommend you try one first, and don’t listen to the complaints of those who never owned one, or only shot one magazine. It does take some adjustment, but with minimal practice, I found I can put more rounds on target faster with the DAK than a DA/SA, which could just be a training issue for me. But I say “Go for it!” Life is too short to shoot cheap guns.
 
#13 ·
While the action is similar to a DA revolver, it is a bit different. Would recommend you try one first, and don’t listen to the complaints of those who never owned one, or only shot one magazine. It does take some adjustment, but with minimal practice, I found I can put more rounds on target faster with the DAK than a DA/SA, which could just be a training issue for me. But I say “Go for it!” Life is too short to shoot cheap guns.
Amen, brother!:D
 
#14 ·
Thanks for all the replies. I finally got to check it out and was NOT impressed. The first reset would click but pulling the trigger would not move the hammer! The full reset worked fine. I do understand how this system works so obviously there is something amiss. The slide has been taken apart as there is only the outer firing pin retaining roll pin, the inner one was never installed. Who knows what else is wrong. Don't know if somebody tried to do a half-assed DAO conversion or left something out. Explains the low price but being a discontinued model with limited parts availability I think I'll avoid this one.
 
#15 ·
Just for your information, the milled stainless slides don't use an inner and outer Pin to hold a Breech Block in position. Initially they used a splined solid pin, which was replaced by the current "coiled" pin, which is only a Firing Pin Positioning Pin.

With most models the Trigger Bar is still produced, which is needed for DAK conversions to DA/SA. The P239 being discontinued, may be harder to find, so Sig's Custom Shop offer to convert for $200 plus shipping could be the best deal all around. That's why a DAO is cheaper, and easier to convert, as it used the same Trigger Bar, and Mainspring/Strut assembly. So unless you wanted an SRT, just a Hammer, Reset Spring, and Decocking Lever assembly is all that would be needed.
 
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#17 ·
DAK trigger is nice. Many people do not like it, however you are used to revolver triggers, it should be fine. Robert Burke the Sig Armorer can do action work on it to make it even nicer. Do not use the reset, it is a heavier pull. Its main purpose is for short stroking. Also, with the DAK you can use Hogue dedicated DAK grips, it makes the grip a good bit thinner.
 
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