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Old 07-27-2020, 04:18 AM   #1
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Iíve never seen the shelves so empty

I went into a couple gun stores this weekend (first time since this covid stuff all started) and was shocked at just how empty the shelves are.

One dealer in particular that normally has several hundred pistols under glass had maybe 25 of what I would call lesser expensive guns. It would seem as though guns that are normally in the $1500-3000 category arenít selling as fast. The dealer had several Wilson and other high end guns. They also had more 1911 full size 45 acp and 38 spc. Revolvers were more numerous, but clearly thined out.

As for ammo... there was so little it wasnít funny. What they had was stuff like 10mm, 45-70...

Also, I found it interesting that these dealers arenít interested in trade in or consignment guns.

While I have read about the stores selling like mad, It just doesnít sink in till you see the shelves so empty.
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Old 07-27-2020, 04:25 AM   #2
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It is clearly panic buying just like grocery stores being empty before a major storm. This is the gun industry's major storm.
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It is clearly panic buying just like grocery stores being empty before a major storm. This is the gun industry's major storm.
I think of it as more like the toilet paper shortage
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I went into a couple gun stores this weekend (first time since this covid stuff all started) and was shocked at just how empty the shelves are.



One dealer in particular that normally has several hundred pistols under glass had maybe 25 of what I would call lesser expensive guns. It would seem as though guns that are normally in the $1500-3000 category arenít selling as fast. The dealer had several Wilson and other high end guns. They also had more 1911 full size 45 acp and 38 spc. Revolvers were more numerous, but clearly thined out.



As for ammo... there was so little it wasnít funny. What they had was stuff like 10mm, 45-70...



Also, I found it interesting that these dealers arenít interested in trade in or consignment guns.



While I have read about the stores selling like mad, It just doesnít sink in till you see the shelves so empty.
Not Covid, think Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York City, St. Louis, and the other cities in turmoil. IMHO there won't be availability of ammo at the low prices of the recent past for a very long time. I also believe that all of the first time gun owners won't be so fast to dump their guns into the used market when they see the price they will get. They will say that keeping the gun is very cheap insurance that requires no further cash outlay.

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Not Covid, think Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York City, St. Louis, and the other cities in turmoil.
It is all the above. The run started with covid when millions went unemployed. My brothers and I surmised with that many unemployed they were going to become desperate. Break in and forced entries where part of our concerns.

Knowing Covid was going to be bad, we started stocking up (not hoarding) ammo in calibers we shoot. We started in late Feb./early March.

I also shipped two shotguns and one handgun to family members followed by some ammo (12ga, 20ga, 9mm). I am the only one in my family that keeps 5.56 (brothers are AK) but they still purchased 500 or so rounds of 5.56 ammo to pass on to me if I needed it.

That is why I firmly believe in posting ammo sales here on Sigtalk when I see them and know they are good deals IN TODAY'S PRICING.

223/556 ammo is already at 56 cents per round fast approaching 60 cents per round per 1,000.

If you need it you better buy it when you see it. Expect 600bucks per thousand.

It is NOT going to go down and expect it to go up for the rest of the year.

One thing that is a factor but not on full display yet is the election. Expect continued runs on ammo and guns the closer we get to the election.

Look for runs on AR/AK parts ESPECIALLY HIGH CAPACITY MAGS the closer we get to the election. Now would be a great time to stock up on those.

Expect a lot of talk of banning assault weapons, high capacity magazines in both handgun and rifle caliber, ban of pistol stabilizing braces as well as the AR/AK pistols themselves, silencers will be targeted, limits on ammo, limits on the number of guns someone can purchase per year, and anything else the Democrats will challenge.

Time for everyone to load up and go boating.
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If you've been a gun owner for a while, now is the time to "thin the herd" of firearms you tend not to use, and accessories that didn't become part of your regular shooting activities.

I've been doing just that for the past weeks, actually helping my local gun store maintain some inventory variety. They have been having a difficult time getting anything from their distributors, and what they do get tends to be what's available, not what's desired.

Store sales are very brisk. New stock that is in demand lasts 24 to 48 hours and is sold. Daily sales have exceeded everything in the store's history. These are times of panic widespread buying by a public that is scared by media reports of rioting and mayhem.

NICS approved background checks give an indication of sales levels (the first decade-plus of the system's recorded activity exceeded in just months) and also of the mood of people that normally don't think about guns. "Defund the police" has sold as many in the past month as all the agenda fueled media reports have in years of heavily publicized incidents.

There is very little available ammunition for sale to these new gun buyers, and they will pay asking price for it. I've included ammunition with some of the rifles I have consignment.

If you have tactical guns you're not using, sell them now. Don't buy guns now. You'll be buying what you want at a discount soon...
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+1 ^^^^^
I've been thinning the herd as well, but I'm maintaining some guns in each of the popular calibers: 9mm, 45ACP, and 38Spl-357Magnum and 12 gauge, so if one drys up I've got something else I can run.

Unfortunately, even reloader's supplies are drying up. I don't reload personally, but figure good reload ammo is more likely to show up in the larger calibers.

Meanwhile, sold 4 pistols in the past few months with 2 more on consignment. Getting top dollar. I figure I can use the cash, and better to focus my practice time and limited ammo on my most effective self-defense tools.

Stay Safe, Stay Well my Friends!
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sing Gunbroker recently. There have not been any Gun Shows in My area in months. The last few I went to had very Slim Pickings,. I purchased four Sig pistols in June. Might be considering a couple more. I have not purchased much ammo since the 2013/2014 panic. Have close to 50K rounds including pistol, Rifle and Shotgun now. What I've purchased lately is Federal HST and Sig V-Crown.
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Despite the current seller's market, I think I'd lose money raising the sunken mini sub containing my gun collection. It makes me sad.
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Despite the current seller's market, I think I'd lose money raising the sunken mini sub containing my gun collection. It makes me sad.
Same here. The lake bottom is too deep to dive. No chance of retrieval.
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With all due respect to everyone here, I think it is preposterous to believe that even if the worst possible election outcome happens that gun confiscation will happen.

Why? Because of a number of factors. First and foremost is gun ownership is so widespread it becomes a war against the average citizen. Second, there would be significant armed resistance. A very significant percentage of police would not be willing to risk their lives to enforce a policy that they believe is questionably legal. Policemen and policewoman want to go home after every shift and fighting armed fellow citizens is not conducive to that. Third, if the police tried to enforce the confiscation laws the population would actively go after the politicians to either incarcerate or do worse to them. We have to be vigilant and take the necessary precautions and make sure that the sliced salami method of eroding or rights is not successful.

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Same here. The lake bottom is too deep to dive. No chance of retrieval.

I can't remember the secret formula to my Oxy-Gum, and I don't own an Atmospheric Diving Suit...
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It is panic buying for several major issues. First of all the Covid-19 pandemic; secondly the BLM movement that have managed to turn peaceful protests into major riots with break ins, assaults, and arson w/o much police response; and thirdly, the possibility of the Dems taking the presidency and congress. Wouldn't you want a firearm to protect your family and yourself? If not you live in a make believe dream world. Nuff' said!
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Saw this article on Bearing Arms in reference to some things that are contributing to the Ammo shortage.

https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/0...eaded-monster/
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I just clicked on some click-bait from Cheaper Than Dirt.

Not that I need any now, or would ever shoot steel case, but a 50 rnd box of 9mm 115gr, TULA AMMO, Steel Case, Zinc-Coated FMJ Bullet, is IN STOCK, at $40.00/box.

Wow.
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