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X5 or legion in 40cal?

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#1 ·
I just sold my 40cal glock 23 to my nephew and i am looking to buy another Sig Sauer. I am really enjoying shooting my P229 EE 9mm but want something bigger and after reading many post I don't know whether to look for an X5 or legion P226. I will mostly use it for target shooting and don't care if it has a longer barrel or not. I just want something that is enjoyable to shoot and accurate. I don't want another 9mm since I have two already. .357 possibly

Sorry of this brings up a repeated topic but I did a search and didn't find a thread with a title I thought compared the legion to the X5's
 
#2 ·
If you're going with the .40, I would hands down say the X5. The extra heft makes it a puppy with the .40. I have both but prefer the Legion 226 in 9mm.
 
#5 ·
For a range/target/accuracy gun not even a question, the X5 every time, 9mm or 40. Though you'll probably pay a premium for it now.

The only place I'd possibly give the legion the nod is it's a smaller lighter gun, and IMO has a better weight trigger for a nightstand/carry gun (aside for the X5 DA/SA all-around). The Xray night sights are nice on the Legion, and the new grip feels even smaller/better than the Hogue G10 X5 grips I've had. None of that however applies for a range/accuracy/fun gun.
 
#6 ·
If you go with the P226 Legion in .40 you can get also a .357SIG barrel and swap them at will.
I don't have a X5 so I don't know about multicaliber on those. My P229 .40 got a 9mm xchange kit and a .357SIG barrel. The 9mm setup is most accurate (less recoil) and the .357SIG barrel is most fun to shoot.
 
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Just to answer Steelhat's question about 357 compatibility with the X5, its certainly possible. Just have Barsto make you an X5 357 Sig barrel.
Just make sure you have it fitted correctly.
Also, it should be noted, that unless the X5 40 cal he gets has an L1 trigger, then the X5 would be just fine for a personal defense/night stand gun, as the triggers on the Competition and other models from what Ive saw are 4+ pounds. Mine was close to 5 pounds I believe before I sent her to Robert Burke. But.....as most know, a super nice trigger like an X5 can be very deceiving as to actual pull weight. My X5 broke so crisp with no creep that I thought for sure it was 3.5 pounds. I had no idea until i put a trigger pull gague/gauge?:) on it....
 
#8 ·
Good luck finding that X5, it's getting harder and harder to find those. The reason I want the legion 226 SAO is for the X5 trigger.. If you could find the X5, do it, it has much smaller tolerances and is just a better gun. You could probably get two or three Sigs for an x series anything though.


Fly Navy
 
#40 ·
That being said, if anyone has any connections or knows how to get ahold of someone selling one of Sigs new X5's with the competition flat adjustable trigger, you have a buyer right here ready to go. View attachment 31712


Fly Navy
You are looking for an X5 super match which is very rare. Even if you find one it would be ridiculously expensive. Sorry.
 
#10 ·
It's possible, my non-enhanced X5 tactical is under 3.5lbs and it was lighter before swapping to P226 springs. Seems I got an anomaly if most of them are closer to 5lbs. I'd love it if I could get my tactical that heavy, as it is it's a range gun only now.

5lbs would be the lower limit of what I'd consider acceptable, and it's true that a crisp trigger can feel lighter if you're not used to them and has zero forgiveness under high stress pressure. I've seen more than one "experienced" handgun owner take a 4-5lbs nice SAO trigger into a shoot house and put the first round in the floor, and that's just a little bit of competition nerves. People really have no idea how much fine motor skill they loose when the adrenaline really turns on.
 
#23 ·
Anyone who makes a comparison video between a standard 229 and a Legion that doesn't even mention the trigger has zero credibility in my book.

Just my opinion.
 
#29 ·
Mine too, he doesn't mention that the Legion has a milled from billet trigger with adjustable over or post travel. That's a plus for sure. Also, some of the features on the Legion were assigned prices, such as $80 for the additional milling work on the slide. Fair enough if you consider that it doesn't cost Sig that much for additional machine work already programmed in their CNC machines. But, if you like and wanted to add those features on a gun that didn't have them, it'll cost you a whole heck of a lot more than $80 to get the work done and then get it refinished.

Same thing, but to a lesser extent with the sights. Sig X-ray sights (almost the same as Trijicon HD's) are about the same cost, $129 or so. You could buy the P229 and replace the standard Sig night sights with the X-ray, but you will take a hit reselling the new sights you removed.

If you like the Legion's features (including that &*^% beaver tail) over a regular P229, I think for the money the Legion is a good deal. Maybe not a smoking good deal, but a fair increase in cost over a standard P229. You sure couldn't add the Legion's added features to a stock P229 for what the Legion costs over the P229.

I personally would not purchase a Legion, I might buy an X5 though. I prefer the legacy slide w/short extractor and no beaver . . . tail. One can purchase a used P229 40, DA/SA LE turn-in for $350 to $500 - condition varies widely and is typically reflected in price. I purchased a nice 2001 vintage with exceptionally low wear and no dings for $439. It couldn't have more than a couple of hundred rounds through it judging from barrel and rails.

Add SRT, and new HD's for $175. If the original sights are tritium, they will probably be dim. If too dim, you can get them relamped (think that may cost $75, or replace the sights to get the nicer HD or X-ray front sight. You'll end up with an excellent pistol for half the cost of a Legion, and one that is arguably built just as well or maybe better (depending on how you feel about vintage P229's).

I've made a number of improvements to my ex-LE P229, including adding post and pre-travel to original trigger, P-shim, and more. DA is 8.5 and SA 3.7 lbs. I like this gun so much I wouldn't trade it straight across for a brand new Legion - seriously, not even close. I guess my values are screwed up, huh?
 
#30 ·
I am watching a few x5's "p226 x5 all-round, x-five all-round, P226 x5 L1 and keep dreaming of the X5 B&W" on GB and really do not know enough to make a decision.

My local gun shop guy says x5 all-rounds aren't mastershop guns and is trying to get me to order a CZ 75 of any competition pkg. They cannot get a Legion or X5 so I would have to buy elsewhere and have it sent to them.

I thought about ordering .357 and 40cal legions but local shops cannot get either so I went back to getting an trying to make up my mind on X5's
 
#31 ·
Your LGS is correct, however they are still excellent pistols. I own a Black and White......and LOVE it.
Those CZ's are incredibly nice shooters with triggers that at least rival L1 triggers from what I understand.
You have a knowledgeable LGS imo.
Personally with the choices youve mentioned I dont think you would go wrong with any of them.
If it were me......Id get the Black and White and not look back. Youll prolly regret not getting one when you had the chance. Just my 2 pennies.
Good luck man...
 
#38 ·
Thanks everyone who replied.

I just ordered a Black and White and should have it later in the week.

How did I go from a Legion or all-round to a black and white I don't know but I am excited to get it even though its not a 40cal. I love the looks of it and after talking to another member about them I had jumped on one.
 
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