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Old 02-14-2019, 07:12 AM   #16
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I like taking the guns early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:34 AM   #17
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I like taking the guns early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.


I really dont usually get involved in these discussions but with all of what is happening is this country it is getting hard to see how we will have any real rights at all in the near future.


-- Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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^^A trouble I see on that front is that many ascribe particular party = Liberty
Other particular = anti Liberty

Whereas my co-opted quote above should kill such nonsensical assertions (but it doesn't).
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:48 PM   #19
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I like taking the guns early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.


Have 1st or4th amendment taken away then go though due process to get it back. Following your logic.


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Academy sold him a firearm, in Texas, with out-of-state identification.
Thatís illegal and plenty of reason for an attorney to exploit a payout.
Seems the background check would have kicked that application back?
The system broke down because the resident of another state was able to buy a firearm? Three times. Not gonna fair well in court.
The parishioners were murdered by a psychopath, but Academy will bear liability because an employee(s)processed an application without following the law. Real ugly in court.

Parties are suing the USAF for the killerís dishonorable discharge as well. Even if he was diagnosed with a mental disorder, that info is protected by HIPPA laws and nearly impossible to obtain.

Incredible that this mass murder ended when a good guy with an AR, flagged down a good guy with a pickup, pursued this POS and mortally wounded him. Self inflicted gunshot ended his right to a fair trial.

Our legal system can sure weave some tangled webs!
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I think we should expect more rulings similar to this from judges in the future...at least until a majority of citizens get fed up with having their rights ignored and finally say "ENOUGH!" with excessive liberalism and PC behavior.

Remember back in 1992 when a 79 year old woman sued McDonalds after spilling a hot cup of take-out coffee in her lap? A jury awarded her $3,000,000 in damages.

Now-a-days the lawyers would have sued the company supplying the coffee too!
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I generally think background check laws are barely concealed efforts on the part of anti-gunners to make life difficult for gun owners. In this case, though, it appears the background check process could have kept a firearm out of the hands of someone who should not have had it, if it had been properly administered. So here we have an example of a background check that should have prevented a mass attack but failed when it was improperly done. I would be interested in knowing why the clerk failed to follow the rules. But I'm not sure a huge penalty against him accomplishes much.

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Yes
Actually...NO!
Yes, Academy legally sold him the gun but the answer is still no. He lied when he filled out his background paperwork and lied when he answered the questions almost all of us have answered truthfully. In that case, no, he bought the rifle illegally. But Academy should be exonerated as they did nothing wrong.
Now, if it's true that an employee at Academy processed paperwork in error by accepting an out of state identification? Then yes, Academy goes down with the guy.

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Remember back in 1992 when a 79 year old woman sued McDonalds after spilling a hot cup of take-out coffee in her lap? A jury awarded her $3,000,000 in damages.
Actually, the way I remember that story, the problem was that the coffee was too hot. Essentially they gave her boiling coffee in a papercup that severely scalded her. Not that $3M wasn't a bit exessive. But, she didn't win because she was clumsy she won because of a food franchise's negligence that cause injury.
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Would whoever let these people in my state come collect them and take them back to the occupied territory in which they belong.



@#$%ing democrats
Amen brother! Texas is Texas for a reason! Don't freaking come here and try to change it to the liberal bs of other states!

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Academy Sports will sue the US for the Air Force's failure to put the shooter on the list of people ineligible to buy as required by law.

There are lots of people who shouldn't be able to buy guns, for example people on the terrorists no-fly list.

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The "no-fly" list is an egregious violation of your civil rights. Heck, my son was on the No-fly List when he was 5 years old. That was a goat-rope, and at the time, I could fly on any airplane armed.

When your name is placed on the No-fly List, the government has effectively secretly limited your freedom of movement via a public means of transportation without any type of court hearing. Right now, anyone on the "No-fly List" cannot get on an airplane by government fiat. How about trains or buses? Of course, you can walk...

Right now, our Republicrats are lining up to pass a so-called "Red-Flag" law on a national level. How convenient when anyone can call up the local Polizei anonymously and cause SWAT to show up at your door at 0 Dark-thirty to confiscate your guns and kill you for "non-compliance".

Unless each one of us starts to work as ambassadors of Freedom and educate those around us of the growing threat against the precepts that underpin the very foundation of our Republic on a daily basis, we will lose not just our arms, but every other freedom and Right enshrined in our Constitution.

Truly, a Game of Thrones is afoot, and Winter is coming. We have met the Enemy, and it is Us. A remorseless and implacable foe of all we hold dear is organizing and growing in strength while we do nothing.
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The Air Force was more at fault for not entering him in the NICS system.
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Use of an Out of State I.D to purchase a rifle is completely legal under the GCA '68:
A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
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^^A trouble I see on that front is that many ascribe particular party = Liberty
Other particular = anti Liberty

Whereas my co-opted quote above should kill such nonsensical assertions (but it doesn't).
I am quite clear on who you quoted...someone who is not a career politician, with an unintelligent propensity to arbitrarily quote whatever people whisper in his ear at a given moment.

OTOH, the opposition party is full of career politicians meticulous in their attempted destruction of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. For examples, see California, New York, Illinois, Maine, etc. and the arbitrary 2A violating laws imposed in those states by that opposition party.
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Use of an Out of State I.D to purchase a rifle is completely legal under the GCA '68:
A person may only acquire a firearm within the personís own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
Exactly : If he presented a valid ID that corresponded to the information on the 4473, then it is up to FBI background check. This also assuming that the firearm & " magazines" he purchased are legal in his home state and the state of purchase. The link does not say anything about correct or incorrect information on ID and 4473. Also it did not state anything about magazines. If you are an FFL, you must know all state regulations in regard to magazines, is it a pain? YES, but you must know or check before selling. So I will not guess as to the judge's ruling since we do not have enough information. Be Safe,
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