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Old 04-30-2019, 05:13 AM   #31
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Exactly : If he presented a valid ID that corresponded to the information on the 4473, then it is up to FBI background check. This also assuming that the firearm & " magazines" he purchased are legal in his home state and the state of purchase. The link does not say anything about correct or incorrect information on ID and 4473. Also it did not state anything about magazines. If you are an FFL, you must know all state regulations in regard to magazines, is it a pain? YES, but you must know or check before selling. So I will not guess as to the judge's ruling since we do not have enough information. Be Safe,
There is no question in this lawsuit about the legality of the ID or the information on the 4473. The ID, the 4473 and the NICS were all legit.

This lawsuit is intended to test one or both of two principles. The ability of a victim/survivor to successfully extort monies from the manufacturer of a weapon used by the attacker and/or the closing more "loopholes" with more restrictive weapons laws on honest citizens in every state at the federal level ... the homogenization of gun law across states inflicted on honest people. The intent of this lawsuit is to change law not enforce it.

Personally, I don't believe there should be a restriction on the out of state purchase of hand guns, NFA, firearms or accessories. Thieves and evildoers abide no such restrictions and these restrictions should not be imposed on honest people. Anyone who gets a passing mark from NICS should be able to purchase legal items from legal sellers.

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Old 07-13-2019, 07:51 PM   #32
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If this goes through are we going to allow lawsuits against the Budweiser/Coors retailers and Chevy/Ford dealers when a drunk driver kills someone?

This is stupid, and the only ones who win are the attorneys.
That ship has already sailed. Bars/restaurants selling drinks to a drunk individual is already a crime in some States and many a Bar/Restaurant's Insurance Company has had to pay off big settlements. I suspect the issue is we do not sell booze to drunks and we do not sell guns to crazy people.

If it were as easy to identify a crazy person as it is identify a drunk this would not be a big issue.
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Would whoever let these people in my state come collect them and take them back to the occupied territory in which they belong.

@#$%ing democrats
I'll volunteer my Jeep and pay for the gas.
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Incredible that this mass murder ended when a good guy with an AR, flagged down a good guy with a pickup, pursued this POS and mortally wounded him. Self inflicted gunshot ended his right to a fair trial.

Our legal system can sure weave some tangled webs!
"But... but... no one has a legitimate need for an AR15!"
How many times have we all heard that one?

And yet when an AR is used in a positive way by a non LEO, we hear nothing from the major national media (brainwash) outlets.
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Just seeing this now. Sickening. The families are just being used by different groups for money and anti-gun agendas. Looks like the main argument is Academy shouldn’t have sold him the gun because it came with 30 rd mags which were not legal in Colorado, his state of residence and on the id he used. They’re contesting whether mags should be considered firearms and whether one state has to honor the gun laws of another. Stupid liberals.

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This is an interesting case and argument. The gun store is arguing the magazine is NOT apart of a weapon. Might have negative 2nd implications. Strange that gun industry lawyers would adopt an argument that would support a magazine ban.

Also I did not see anything in that story that indicated these rural Texas citizens were not the typical conservative Texan. So why the "Stupid liberals" comment. I will admit that it has been a couple of decades since I last visited Texas, but in the past Texans sure impressed me with the notion that they loved lots of money.
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Forgot about Colorado's mag limit. That's why Magpul moved its factory out of Colorado.
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This is an interesting case and argument. The gun store is arguing the magazine is NOT apart of a weapon. Might have negative 2nd implications. Strange that gun industry lawyers would adopt an argument that would support a magazine ban.

Also I did not see anything in that story that indicated these rural Texas citizens were not the typical conservative Texan. So why the "Stupid liberals" comment. I will admit that it has been a couple of decades since I last visited Texas, but in the past Texans sure impressed me with the notion that they loved lots of money. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://sigtalk.com/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
I think it’s probably the lawyers and anti gun groups pushing this lawsuit, not necessarily families. The families are probably looking for compensation, it’s all about the target with the deepest pockets. Who else is there to sue? The church? Whenever there is a tragedy, vultures are all too ready to exploit it. It should get thrown out because Academy did nothing wrong or illegal. If not, it could spell trouble for gun rights.
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This a general comment not directed at anyone.

A problem I have with the tone some comments is that the suit is being brought by the victims and families, they are not vultures nor anti gun groups, nor are they some sort of nasty liberals they are the victims. Whatever course they choose to take I will not be critical of them.
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This a general comment not directed at anyone.

A problem I have with the tone some comments is that the suit is being brought by the victims and families, they are not vultures nor anti gun groups, nor are they some sort of nasty liberals they are the victims. Whatever course they choose to take I will not be critical of them.
The families unfortunately probably just want someone to be held accountable and receive some compensation, regardless of how wrong it is. But it’s the lawyers who are making the case. Interesting how they chose not to sue the makers of all the prescription meds the shooter was on.
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The Supreme Court will have something to say about this.
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