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Old 08-06-2020, 03:51 PM   #31
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It's far from a stunt. She is out to destroy the NRA and I think she will be successful and very possibly get jail sentences. I used to live in NY and she is a force to be reckoned with.
I’ll put my money on the NRA...it’s a publicity stunt. Bloomberg couldn’t do it with all his billions over the years...you give her far too much credit.

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Old 08-06-2020, 03:57 PM   #32
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I’ll put my money on the NRA...it’s a publicity stunt. Bloomberg couldn’t do it with all his billions over the years...you give her far too much credit.

Let's bet a beer and burger

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Old 08-06-2020, 03:58 PM   #33
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Seems some of the allegations are the same Oliver North was concerned about, I won't give a nickle until Wayne is out the door...as if they don't already have quite a bit of my welfare.
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Strange how my post on this was deleted???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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I wouldn't be surprised if the NY AG has been chomping at the bit to find a reason to do this for years.

But the real blame lies with Wayne LaPierre for giving them that reason. I don't think the accusations that he, "used the NRA as his personal piggy bank" are off the mark at all. My feelings about gun rights aside, he and the NRA should be legitimately investigated if all the rumors of misuse of funds are true, as should any other organization that does that, regardless of what cause they claim to champion.
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Old 08-06-2020, 05:06 PM   #36
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If the allegations are true the guilty parties should go to jail and return all the money. The board should hire a new director. If board members are implicated they should be replaced by the membership. Dissolving the organization would further harm the defrauded members.

The NRA is by far the most powerful gun lobby. Their power is only partially the dollars. The real power is in the membership. Politicians listen because the NRA can elect you or defeat you by getting out the vote.

The NRA also is still the largest gun safety organization. Are all their certified instructors excellent? No, but many are and their classes are the most widespread and most accessible to the general public.
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Old 08-06-2020, 05:54 PM   #37
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Strange how my post on this was deleted???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
It wasn’t, it’s in the “news” section, you posted correctly

https://sigtalk.com/news/391794-nra-vs-nyc.html
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So it got moved. Ok. Thank you.
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Oliver North left the NRA for this very thing.


“On April 16, 2019, North and NRA first vice president Richard Childress wrote to the chairman of the NRA audit committee and the NRA's secretary and general counsel calling for an independent audit of the billing from the NRA's law firm, Brewer Attorneys & Counselors. In an April 24, 2019 letter to the executive committee of the NRA board, North said that he was forming a committee to investigate alleged financial improprieties, allegations which he said threatened the NRA's non-profit status.In an April 25, 2019 letter to the NRA board, LaPierre said that North was threatening to release damaging information about him.On April 27, 2019, in a letter read on his behalf at the NRA's annual convention in Indianapolis, Indiana, North announced he would not serve a second term. North's term ended on April 29, 2019, when he was replaced by Carolyn D. Meadows.”







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I am a proud member, and have been to 7 conventions, where I have met much of the leadership, and spoken at length with.
All through the Obama years the IRS had permanent offices at NRA, where they did full audits every year.
Think the IRS found misuse. No
Friends of NRA is very very careful in how the raise and distribute money. All to the shooting sports, and nearly everyone a volunteer worker.
A lot of the misuse stories come from the son of the guy that did not want the ILA wing started. A lot of it, is a power grab. I would not mourn Wayne leaving, but not for him, or his ilk.


I hear a lot about the GOA, and it is very good, but who does the left focus on.
The GOA is never a mover and shaker for us politically where it counts.
The NRA is the only 800 lbs gorilla the left worries about, and tries to end.

The left is the proof the NRA is still our voice. The members voting is still what they fear.

Same with Fox News. One America is better, but it is Fox the left aims at, because they know Fox has the viewers. They know Fox hurts them, and the try hard to kill it off.

The NRA isn’t perfect for sure, but it’s what I’d call “Tall dog at the trough” at least they give us a chance to be a force to be reckoned with. The gun grabbers would like nothing better than to see the NRA disappear. For special consideration in my tyrannical state, I also support the CRPA.

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I say good riddance to the thieves and crooks. Just imagine what the Second Amendment Foundation and the GOA could do with the 64 million dollars that has been allegedly stolen from the members of the NRA

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We've all known it wasn't squeaky clean, this video is spot on:



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This does not surprise me and it’s been tried before and FAILED. It WILL FAIL AGAIN.
TASK59 —- Not sure I agree it will FAIL. Just the Legal fees alone that the NRA spends to defend itself will “hurt” that organization and take away $$$ they would otherwise spend promoting their priorities, political goals etc.. And that’s exactly the intention of NY and this action they are taking. It certainly worked (lawsuits) against REMINGTON !!
The Gov’t has Unlimited $$$ (taxpayer funded) and can waste all they want while “claiming” they are protecting citizens from the evil NRA. It is concerning how powerful and “unchecked” State governments can be.
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TASK59 —- Not sure I agree it will FAIL. Just the Legal fees alone that the NRA spends to defend itself will “hurt” that organization and take away $$$ they would otherwise spend promoting their priorities, political goals etc.. And that’s exactly the intention of NY and this action they are taking. It certainly worked (lawsuits) against REMINGTON !!
The Gov’t has Unlimited $$$ (taxpayer funded) and can waste all they want while “claiming” they are protecting citizens from the evil NRA. It is concerning how powerful and “unchecked” State governments can be.
+! ^^^^^^

I wonder if this will trigger an IRS investigation? If it hasn't already.

I believe that 'non-profit status' is ultimately controlled by the IRS.

And the IRS has been used to take down many people and organizations that were previously thought 'Untouchables'!

Hopefully, the fraudsters can be expelled and left to their own defenses before an organization that truly does good work is destroyed.

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TASK59 –- Not sure I agree it will FAIL. Just the Legal fees alone that the NRA spends to defend itself will “hurt” that organization and take away $$$ they would otherwise spend promoting their priorities, political goals etc.. And that’s exactly the intention of NY and this action they are taking. It certainly worked (lawsuits) against REMINGTON !!
The Gov’t has Unlimited $$$ (taxpayer funded) and can waste all they want while “claiming” they are protecting citizens from the evil NRA. It is concerning how powerful and “unchecked” State governments can be.
As to Remington, selling guns that go bang when the safety is on did drive a number of "Private" individuals to take them to court. On a personal note, I had one of those sometimes safeties.
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