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Rumor Mill: P320 .22LR

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#1 ·
I’m a member of another Sig group and a member mentioned he was told by a Sig associate that a .22LR model is in the works. I would certainly consider this to be in the realm of possibility.

If true, I’d be interested to see if:

1. The price is comparable to the Taurus TX22. I’d imagine a conversion kit alone would be close.

2. They would actually manage to push a version with more than a 10rd capacity.

I was thinking about picking up a Taurus, but I guess I’ll wait and see if Sig comes out with something.
 
#2 ·
I'm a big fan of the 320 platform and would be interested in .22 for sure … if the price is right. If they come out a lot cheaper than the Ruger's they might have a market … if not, the MK IVs are hard to beat for a nice .22.
 
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#6 · (Edited)
I generally would not see the Ruger MK series of guns as the primary competitor here, but rather as others have stated the TX22 and the Glock 44, M&P Compact 22LR.

Basically, folks who EDC a 320, looking for a trainer gun would be a primary market.

Would be interesting to see if/when a 22LR 320 comes about.

I've recently gotten into the Sig world in the last year or so, like many others, with the 365, but also just picked up a 320 Xcompact. I like having a trainer gun in the same model or as close as possible to what I am carrying, so this type of thing is of interest to me.
 
#36 ·
My thoughts exactly. But I don't see them having a reasonable price on a "conversion kit". I would still expect them to come out at $499.99. If they release it at $399.99 with say 3 mags, like their other kits, I would be all over that.
 
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1. The price is comparable to the Taurus TX22. I’d imagine a conversion kit alone would be close.

2. They would actually manage to push a version with more than a 10rd capacity.
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1) I could see Sig bringing out a Glock 44 competitor, but, in Sig fashion, it would be priced similarly or higher, in the $400 range.

2) Higher capacity would be awesome, but Sig has been reluctant to do so in older models. 10+ capacity would give Sig the edge over the Glock.

I'd rather see a P365XL in a .22!
 
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I suppose I missed a couple other things to note:

1. Slide lock back. I find it hard to believe they couldn’t figure it out with some of their other conversion kits. Lack of this feature would be a big nail in the coffin for me. As a training tool, this is an important feature for me.

2. Reliability. Yes, I know Sig didn’t produce the skeeter. I loved the concept behind the one I had, but the reliability was garbage (for me and many others). There’s no point in taking a chance on a jam-o-matic.

I’m pretty happy overall with my p229 .22 kit. I modified the mags to hold 15rds, but the slide lock back irritates me still.
 
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The TX22 is a great gun and mine has been really reliable and accurate. It is very light weight, the 16 round mags are a big plus and the slide does lock back. If you get a chance to try one you may well forget about a P320 conversion.
 
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I doubt it would sell well. Glock will do ok on their 22 lr but only because of the caché associated with the name. The P320 just doesn't enjoy that kind of instant brand recognition. Honestly, I don't think the G44 was a product the market really wanted and I have heard very mixed reviews about it's performance.
A high quality 22lr P320 would cost as much as a Ruger or Browning, both of which come with target sights and very nice single action triggers.

A conversion kit might sell but there again I see it costing $300+ which is in the neighborhood of other well known pistols. The conversion kits were never all that attractive to me. They make several compromises a purpose built pistol does not and they cost almost as much as those other pistols. Even the centerfire conversions seem unattractive when you can just buy the complete pistol for just a little more or a CPO for less.

A lot of people like the Taurus TX22. Just to be different I preordered two P17's. For $169 each it's worth a try. I already have a Buckmark which is a tack driver. If I were going to spend that kind of money on a 22 again it would be something similar.
 
#13 ·
I like the idea. I won't mind a higher price (than Taurus). It can stay at the same level as Glock 44. But it needs to offer superb reliability and eat all kinds of bulk .22 ammo. From all the reviews, this seems to be the biggest problem for G44.

Ammo cost adds up. I thought about getting TX22 but don't want to train with different ergo. If Sig makes a reliable .22 P320, I will buy it in a heart beat.
 
#17 ·
Getting pretty tired of seeing all the 10rd .22lr plastic clones out there. I don't know how anyone can get excited by them.
The AWB ended nearly 16 years ago and so it is possible to make a .22lr semi auto that holds more than 10rds. Up to this point there are very few available.
 
#18 ·
Getting pretty tired of seeing all the 10rd .22lr plastic clones out there.
I think the biggest issue has always been cartridge rim lock. It isn't an issue with the steeply slanted single stacks most pistols use. Kel Tec solved this with the PMR30 and now both the TX22 and P17 are doublestack 16 round mags.Glock dropped the ball in not copying this concept. Personally, I have zero interest in a striker fired 22lr. 22's are plinking guns so they need to be fun to shoot. The TX22 is striker, the P17 is internal hammer fired single action.
 
#19 ·
I have a 22lr conversion slide for my 226 and it works great.

I had one of the hammer-fired DA-only Sig 22lr pistols and the trigger pull was impossibly long. It went down the road quickly.

I have a TX22 and a Glock 44. So far, the TX is the better shooter.
 
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#21 ·
The day has not come, and never will come, when I get excited about a .22. Yeah, yeah, I know; dirt cheap ammo, you can shoot it all day...most fun plinking round ever invented...great small game getter for the zombie apocalypse...etc., etc. I've heard it all. They do nothing for me. 22LR pistols and rifles just seem cheap to me. So maybe I'm a cartridge snob, I can live with that. But for me, it's center fire or nothing.

And yes, I own two .22's. That doesn't mean I like them, and it doesn't mean I ever shoot them.:lol:
 
#24 ·
I emailed Sig Sauer in January of this year asking if there were any "thoughts" of a p320 22 cal conversion kit being released. I noted the popularity of the p320 and that a 22 kit would likely be a big seller.

The reply was "No", they were not developing a conversion kit and had no plans to do so. I just went through my emails but had deleted it.

I have a 320 compact (9mm) and use a Vedder Light Tuck appendix holster. I was looking at the TX22 a couple weeks ago and it felt just like the p320. In fact it fit (and snapped) into the holster, like it was made for it.
 
#25 ·
I'd buy one as a trainer. Centerfire ammo is getting expensive, and even if you're overpaying for .22, it's still cheap.

The problem is that I've converted all of my defensive firearms to red dots. I doubt you could mount a dot on a .22 pistol and have it cycle reliably. The caliber is probably too weak to handle the extra weight on the slide.

It's interesting that the TX22 seems to fit 320 holsters though....
 
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#29 ·
I am in the market for a 22LR pistol. I have looked at all the models, weighed the pros and cons of each, flexibility of mounting an optic. I've even taken a look at reported reliability. I'm a lefty so at least some sort ambi-control layout is preferred, though not necessary for me. Though it would be nice to have a P320 in 22LR, I don't see it happening anytime soon, if ever.
Cost is also a big factor. It's a trigger time and a plinking gun. Something I can take to the range and only spend $40-$45 to shoot a 1000 rounds of bulk ammo. I am not the kind of person that would spend $500+ on a gun for this purpose. With all that in mind, I have narrowed it down to a single choice. My LGS has these for $349.95, just $50 more than the Walther or Taurus.
The Ruger Mark IV 22/45. Just the plain Jane 5.5" 22/45, add the optics rail, and a set of VZ grips and go.
 

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#30 · (Edited)
I'd point out that the magazine release on a TX 22 can be swapped for South paws. ( I'm one as well. )
You'll not hear me trash a Ruger Mark 22 of any generation,though I feel the Mark IV's take down is a big improvement.
 
#33 ·
Both fine choices, but I wanted a striker fired 22. And I'm not a fan of Glock. Hence the TX22. IMO Taurus got this one right.
 
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#40 ·
Sinkhole-
The Ruger Mark IV 22/45.

As another lefty, I agree with Sinkhole’s appraisal of the situation, to the point of buying the MarkIV 22/45 about the same time he did. I had two MK-III 22/45s and still have a MK-III Hunter that were used in my CCW classes, and the only problems were either ammo related, or when the guns got too dirty- even the Ruger needs to be cleaned every so often! In fact my MK-III Hunter has 27,077 rds through it so far without any problems not related to ammo.
I just decided that I needed another 22LR for fun, but something accurate. So I settled on the Ruger MK-IV 22/45, and after installing the Volquartsen trigger and sear, I have a trigger pull better than my S&W 41, and is reliable(unlike the S&W). The 22/45 now lives in my range bag, so it gets used every time I go to the range, regardless of any other guns I shoot.

I really like my 226 and 220 conversions as they make excellent trainers for the center fire, and after adding a taller front sight, they finally hit point of aim. A conversion for the 320 would be nice, if used as a trainer for the center fire, but if you want an inexpensive, reliable 22LR for range/ plinking/fun, then it is hard to beat the Ruger MK-IV in any version. I am a Sig-aholic like many of you, and have been shooting/collecting/ gathering Sigs since 1987, but when it comes to 22LR, Ruger owns the market for inexpensive, reliability, and customer service. I just don’t see Sig investing the resources in the current environment to challenge Ruger. Sure hope I am wrong, as I too would love to have a 320/22.
 
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A conversion for the 320 would be nice, if used as a trainer for the center fire, but if you want an inexpensive, reliable 22LR for range/ plinking/fun, then it is hard to beat the Ruger MK-IV in any version. I am a Sig-aholic like many of you, and have been shooting/collecting/ gathering Sigs since 1987, but when it comes to 22LR, Ruger owns the market for inexpensive, reliability, and customer service. I just don’t see Sig investing the resources in the current environment to challenge Ruger. Sure hope I am wrong, as I too would love to have a 320/22.
I am missing my MK III :cry:
 
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