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Old 05-19-2020, 07:22 PM   #1
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I picked up my P320 RXP XCompact today. Feels great in the hand, and the trigger feels amazing compared to my S&W M&P Shield. I noticed after I took this picture that the factory grease really catches the light coming in the window (this was pre-cleaning).

The XRAY3 sights are nice. These are my first night sights. They glow a cool green in the dark.

Romeo1 Pro looks good so far. I noticed the dot looks different to my iPhone camera than it does to my eyes. The phone sees a clean dot. To my eyes it’s more of an uneven star due to my astigmatism and glasses. Most lights look that way to me, so it seems normal enough. Just thought that was interesting. The manual describes the 12 brightness settings as 10 daytime and 2 “NV.” I think what they mean by that is the bottom two brightness settings are really dim and are probably meant for use in the dark.

It takes a moment to find the dot, but I think with some muscle memory I’ll learn to go right to it. It didn’t come in the box exactly co-witnessed with the irons, and I’m not sure if it just needs adjusting or if that’s how it was factory sighted.

Can’t wait to get some rounds through it.

EDIT: Added a picture of the night sights.

EDIT: Added some comparison shots with my Shield. The P320 isn’t a whole lot longer or taller (minus the Romeo), but it is quite a bit thicker.

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Old 05-19-2020, 07:35 PM   #2
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My brother got one of those recently - his projected dot doesn't look like that. It's funky looking.

It's like if you took a bunch of red cylinders and aligned them like a cable or something - you can see individual dots and it's not a circle.

However, I just tried taking a picture of it and it looks fine on the phone, but to my eye, it's not like that.

EDIT: Well, now I know why! I have an astigmatism. I know I've had it for years and years, but never knew it'd affect the way a red-dot looked. Huh. It's what the pictures call a "starburst".

That's really annoying.
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Old 05-19-2020, 07:36 PM   #3
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Congrats on your beautiful new X-Compact RXP.

Pistol optics are a very hot topic these days as more and more shooters make the switch, and there's definitely a learning curve...

Below is a linked thread of discussion that covers the Dos and Don'ts according to the experts, and the videos are really helpful.

One of the biggest points is the shooter shouldn't be looking for the Dot, or for the irons to help find the Dot... Instead, the shooter should focus only on the target while pushing the pistol out toward it, and the Dot should superimpose over the intended target.

At first the Dot may not be over the target, but practicing a cleaner, more precise pistol push-out/presentation will result in the Dot finding the target.

Using the iron sights to find the Dot, or trying to find the Dot before focusing on the target, will actually slow down one's overall progress and teach bad habits:

https://sigtalk.com/gun-training-tac...asing-dot.html

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NV means night vision, guessing you dont have any NV. You don’t “slave” the optic dot to the irons like you would on a rifle absolute cowitness. Zero the dot completely separate from irons. A bore sight on stable bench will get you roughly near to zero. Then do 3-5 shoots and adjust based on that grouping. Repeat till your shots are grouping around center.
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Ideally, the Dot and the irons should NOT cowitness, they're totally separate sighting devices, and the irons are only for backup. You should see the irons thru the lower third of the lens.

Again, that one thread I linked to has helpful comments by numerous ST members as well as a few great YT videos by top trainers.

https://sigtalk.com/gun-training-tac...asing-dot.html








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Welcome too the club, just picked mine up a couple of weeks ago as well!


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Congrats! My son has been looking at those.
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Congrats. Very nice set up.
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Congratulations on your new SIG!
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EDIT: Well, now I know why! I have an astigmatism. I know I've had it for years and years, but never knew it'd affect the way a red-dot looked. Huh. It's what the pictures call a "starburst".

That's really annoying.
Yep, I’ve known about this for a while. Most bright points of light look this way to me, including red dots, street lights at night, etc. To me they look sort of like stage lights with that cross like you see on TV, except smaller and uneven. I feel like I still see a well-enough defined dot to shoot. I would say it’s not more blurry than my iron sight picture.

Here’s an article about the starburst effect.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar...nd-what-to-do/

Here’s the other thing though, and one of the factors that led me to getting this. I’m terribly near-sighted. Without my glasses, I can hardly see my irons at all at arm’s length. I can make out the green front sight on this XRAY3, and even though it’s a giant blurry mess without my glasses, I can see where the red dot is. Enough that I could probably shoot as far as I can see, anyway. I could probably get shots on target down a 20 foot hallway.

That’s a big deal because I was disturbed when I realized I had never tried to shoot without my glasses and figured out I basically can’t see my Shield’s contrast sights at all without them.

Hopefully I won’t ever need to shoot without my glasses, but who knows…
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Very nice congrats.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:34 AM   #14
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I showed my son that the sights glow in the dark without having to charge up first.

His reaction: 😯

He asked how it does that. I told him it’s radioactive.

His reaction: 😳
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Congrats, I hope you'll like it. Mine (base xcompact with a DPP) has been superb. It is fairly easy to conceal (if you plan to carry), very accurate, and after nearly 4k rounds no function issues.
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