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Old 06-29-2020, 10:13 AM   #1
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What are your thoughts about the thumb safety on the M18? I had put an order in for one without it. Yay or nay?
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:15 AM   #2
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Better off without it unless you live in a state the requires it, or you want it "authentic".
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As a user of a 1911 for many years in the military and the owner of several now I am not bothered at all by the thumb safety on my M17 or M18. It is a matter of user comfort and training.
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Don't care for manual safety's on a striker fired handgun.
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:13 PM   #5
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I'm sure you'll get about a 50/50 yea or nay to a question like that.
Mine has a safety.
Not an issue....a lot of folks who have 1911s automatically push the safety off....even when it's not there.
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What are your thoughts about the thumb safety on the M18? I had put an order in for one without it. Yay or nay?
Never really understood the M18 safety switch. That's why I prefer the gen 1 and 2 P320's.
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Apples & Oranges , Fords or Chevys its a Personal decision..
I Too am an Old 1911 Guy so I Installed a Manual safety for right hand Use only on Both My p365 Standard and My p365 SAS
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I'm getting my M18 with the safety switch mostly because the M18 the Marine Corps will eventually issue me has one. I also don't mind them at all when they are the sweep down style like on my 1911. I can't stand the one on the M9 that has to be swept up and so if the M18 had that style I wouldn't go for it on a personal weapon.
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Without safety is preferable, because even the shooters who claim they are "trained to automatically disengage the manual safety upon drawing of pistol"- often fumble that task under the simple test of simulated stress of a shot timer and a required Hit to a target's lethal zone.

Keep in mind many of the above shooters are confident they can always disengage the manual safety and make a Hit on target- until they fail to do so when tested in training.

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Without safety is preferable, because even the shooters who claim they are "trained to automatically disengage the manual safety upon drawing of pistol"- often fumble that task under the simple test of simulated stress of a shot timer and a required Hit to a target's lethal zone.

Keep in mind many of the above shooters are confident they can always disengage the manual safety and make a Hit on target- until they fail to do so when tested in training.

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Well, confidence IS half the battle! One has to believe one can do it.

Myself, I have enough 1911s w/safeties and I have been handling guns since the mid-70s. I have confidence my finger won’t be in a trigger guard until I’m really close to engaging the trigger. I also know better than to reholtser a gun with no safety without removing holster from my belt, holstering gun, then replacing holster on belt.

OP, if you make gun safety a priority and practice it always, and understand the risks of holstering a gun with no safety, you’ll be fine.
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Get what you want. I agree with PBarnwell, it is totally personal preference. I have an M18 and don't mind the safety at all. I am used to a safety on a 1911. Even if I wasn't it would not matter. It's not rocket science. Even when I got my first 1911 it was very easy and intuitive to disengage the safety.
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What are your thoughts about the thumb safety on the M18? I had put an order in for one without it. Yay or nay?

I prefer it.


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Without safety is preferable, because even the shooters who claim they are "trained to automatically disengage the manual safety upon drawing of pistol"- often fumble that task under the simple test of simulated stress of a shot timer and a required Hit to a target's lethal zone.

Keep in mind many of the above shooters are confident they can always disengage the manual safety and make a Hit on target- until they fail to do so when tested in training.

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I’ve never heard an accomplished PIG (Professionally Instructed Gunman) “fumble” with a safety, bro.

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I’ve never heard an accomplished PIG (Professionally Instructed Gunman) “fumble” with a safety, bro.

Never.

You quoted my comment as if to disprove it, but then moved the goal posts away from the numerous shooters I described... You could edit your reply to do away with the "accomplished PIG" part of it so we're discussing the same large group of shooters, and then I'll reply with what I actually witnessed in training...
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Yay or Nay?
It is just what you are comfortable with..and Prefer..

Obviously the "Manual Safety" is a HOT TOPIC whenever it is brought up!
Those that Do Not Like it or Want It...Seem to Want everyone else to feel the same way.
I wish that those that do not like a Manual Safety were more tolerant to those of Us that do.
I like a Manual Safety but at the same time I am not trying to convert the Gun Owning public.
I feel to each their own and it really is a Personal thing and not a Right or Wrong thing.

I just feel more comfortable carrying a round in the Chamber with a Manual Safety.
Also For my weapon that has the power to kill... I feel more secure with a locked Trigger and knowing that I and I alone choose when and where to unlock that Trigger.
Leaving nothing to happenstance including a shirt tail that can catch on a trigger and shoot it when holstering a gun.

My Story Non Manual Safety TO Manual Safety:

I had a Compact RX without a Manual Safety.
Then after adding a Manual Safety to my P365 I wanted one my P320 as well...Consistency between both guns,
No matter which one I was Carrying it was the same.

So I purchased a M17 Manual Safety Stripped FCU and transferred the FCU parts from my Compact RX to the M17 FCU with Manual Safety Parts included.
So..It just works for me..If it doesn't for you then God Bless..You are walking in your shoes and I am walking in Mine.

Lastly if you do get a Manual Safety..Then practice with it A LOT! It's Free no ammo needed.
Get to where it becomes a natural motion as you draw or pickup the gun..
With repetition I can move the MS to fire before the gun clears my holster.
As with ALL of the Mechanics of Drawing and Shooting you do it until it's so natural that you don't even think about it.

Congrats on your New M18..I'm sure that you will be very happy with it.
And Hey...If you ever want a MS you can always add one! About $165.00
Shoot..I've seen people spend more than that on a Grip! LOL! So your never locked in.

Before:

X-Compact White Talon White Letters 3.jpg

After:

X-Compact RX Manual Safety PRO 1.jpg

With Wilson Combat Grip:

Wilson WCP320 Grip EDC.jpg
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