This is a discussion on P365 in .380? within the P365 forums, part of the SIG Sauer Pistols category; I'm wondering if Sig has plans to make a .380 with the same "patented" mags that the 9mm P365 uses. By my calculations such a ...
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|08-15-2018, 08:46 PM||#1|
P365 in .380?
I'm wondering if Sig has plans to make a .380 with the same "patented" mags that the 9mm P365 uses.
By my calculations such a gun could hold about 100 rounds.
Anybody hear anything along these lines...?
|08-15-2018, 09:35 PM||#2|
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You could still only get 10 and 12 rounds in those 380 mags. Bullet diameter is to close to the same as the 9MM. There is no advantage that I can see unless they made the complete gun smaller for concealment purposes.
|08-15-2018, 10:12 PM||#3|
You are correct. I was just fooling about the 100 rounds.
Seems like they should be able to make a much smaller pistol, with a 10 or 12 round capacity mags--which would be a game changer as is the 9mm P365.
My Kahr P380 holds 6 +1 and is MUCH smaller than my Kahr PM9, that also holds 6+1.
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|08-16-2018, 01:24 AM||#4|
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We humans come in a variety of ergonomic predispositions. Therefore I do not claim to speak for everyone, but I don't see the grip area of the frame being positively influenced by the 380 round.
It's diameter is the same as the 9x19mm Luger but the 9x18 380 is shorter by a negligible amount. Therefore, the width of the grip would not be narrower with a change to the 380; they are both 9mm. The grip and magazine could be made front-to-back shorter and the breach could be made 1mm shorter with the same barrel length. This would not yield a positive ergo change for me.
I actually wouldn't mind adding a few additional mm's of front to back depth to the 9mm's grip. I think that change would lessen muzzle flip and shorten target re-acquisition by a couple of nano seconds...for me! YMMV. A 380 round does have less powder and that would impact muzzle rise positively over the snappier Luger round.
A shorter length wouldn't make much of a difference in printing. We can't change the width in 380. I don't see the caliber change making the gun more concealable.
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|08-16-2018, 03:06 AM||#6|
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Maybe in another year or so after they can finally meet the demand of the 9mm and make sure it’s running reliably. I can see a place for a higher capacity 380. The shield EZ has done extremely well for Smith and the 42 still holds a strong place in the market even though the 43 crippled its sales.
|08-16-2018, 04:56 AM||#9|
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|08-16-2018, 09:12 AM||#12|
The little .380s have their place and, as I understand it, sell pretty well. I've got one for times when I absolutely don't want to get spotted for carrying and still want to carry.
Social situations, not legal situations. I never ever ever carry where it is prohibited by law...
|08-16-2018, 04:04 PM||#15|
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The ATF's 2016 Annual Firearms Manufacturing and Export Report details production of pistols by caliber:
48% - 9mm
24% - 380
18% - over 9mm
09% - under 380 (nearly all 22)
Possibly more surprising are the statistics in the most recent five years of reports:
Year - 9mm - 380
2016 - 48% - 24%
2015 - 43% - 23%
2014 - 35% - 24%
2013 - 38% - 19%
2012 - 35% - 17%
Last edited by gc70; 08-16-2018 at 04:15 PM.
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