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Old 06-28-2020, 04:12 AM   #1
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Rusty chamber and worn trigger after only 424 rounds

I'm a new gun owner and bought a P365 XL from a major retailer. Before firing my first round, I cleaned the gun as recommended by Sig's FAQs. I used Break-Free CLP-2 Cleaner Lubricant Preservative Aerosol. The gun is stored in a handgun safe in my nightstand and has not been exposed to moisture.

On 3 visits the range over the course of 3 weeks, I've fired 400 rounds of Blazer Brass 5201 124 gr FMJ and 24 rounds of +P Speer Gold Dot CCI53617 124 gr JHP. I bought the +P ammo by mistake not realizing it was +P, but the gun is rated to handle it, so I'm thinking that should not be a problem. Lesson learned.

During use, the slide would lock back with one round left in the magazine about 25% of the time. My third trip to the range was specifically to figure out if it was limited to one of the two stock mags and it seemed like it was. I marked it and sent the gun back to Sig for warranty repair. Very pleased with the customer service, by the way. It was only 7 days between leaving my house and getting the gun back.

When the gun came back, these were among the comments:
Pistol very dirty & void of any lube.
Barrel very dirty, rusty chamber.
Replaced barrel.
Replaced striker assy.
Replaced worn trigger & pin.
Replaced ( 2 ) mags.

The owners manual says to clean and lubricate before or after every day the pistol is fired or at a minimum of every 500 rounds. I did not clean or lubricate after each time to the range, so the void of any lube comment is on me. I'll clean/lube more often from now on. I'm surprised at some of the other comments.

Rusty chamber?
The trigger was worn?
Could I have been sold a used gun?
Or could these parts were replaced to cover any possible cause of the issue and those are the canned responses that the gunsmith could select?

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 06-28-2020, 05:59 AM   #2
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Seems like Sig stepped up with great CS .
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Old 06-28-2020, 06:09 AM   #3
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I clean/relube after every range trip. Just the way I learned it. Do you live near the ocean or in a very humid climate? Sig was good to replace the BBL.
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Yes. I totally agree that I got excellent customer service. At most, I thought maybe a new magazine, so Sig went way beyond my expectations. I won't get to the range for a few days to try the gun since getting it back, but i expect it will work well.
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I live in NC, which at this time of year is already humid, so that might be a factor. However, except for getting from the car to the range, since buying in late May, the gun has been stored in an air conditioned and humidity controlled home. If humidity is indeed the issue, I'm not sure what I can do to avoid the problem. Surely others in the south east US own Sigs and don't have a rusty chamber after less than a month. Hopefully, more frequent cleaning and lubricating will help. Any other advice is appreciated.
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Was this gun a new gun or a pre-owned gun?
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I live in NC, which at this time of year is already humid, so that might be a factor. However, except for getting from the car to the range, since buying in late May, the gun has been stored in an air conditioned and humidity controlled home. If humidity is indeed the issue, I'm not sure what I can do to avoid the problem. Surely others in the south east US own Sigs and don't have a rusty chamber after less than a month. Hopefully, more frequent cleaning and lubricating will help. Any other advice is appreciated.
Where in NC? I am in New Bern and have 3 P365ís with zero issues of rust so far. I carry and wipe down daily to prevent sweat from causing rust issues, I have been using RemOil drylube, but I recently got some Boeshield T9 based on some feedback read here on the forums. Hopefully your issue is resolved though and will not come back.
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I expected it to be new - as I paid retail price at an outdoor sports store. If it was used, I would hope the store would have told me. I will say, that when I bought it, there were none in the case and the first salesperson said they did not have any, while another sales person off to the side said they had one "over here" and pulled one out from a back room. Sounds a little suspicious. It appeared to have all the paperwork and accessories like new in the box with the serial number sticker on the outside as well. I'm pretty sure it was new. At this point, I assume it's moot to question, as even if it wan't new, I don't know how I could possibly prove that at this point. Is there a serial number check I could do?
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Where in NC? I am in New Bern and have 3 P365ís with zero issues of rust so far. I carry and wipe down daily to prevent sweat from causing rust issues, I have been using RemOil drylube, but I recently got some Boeshield T9 based on some feedback read here on the forums. Hopefully your issue is resolved though and will not come back.
Thanks - this is helpful. I figured there are things I could do to help prevent issues like rust and your comments are great. Thanks.
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Their description of the condition and what they did to it sounds SO far off how it could be based on the history you describe, that I have to wonder if they mixed up the description of what was done on yours, with the description of what they did to another.
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Not sure what retailer you bought from, but if they take trades, they likely sold you a used gun. No way does a trigger wear out from a couple QC rounds (if Sig even does that with all guns off the assembly line).

I don’t think it could have rusted like that in the short time you had it either. Sounds like someone used it in a very wet climate (or dropped it water and didn’t clean it).

Sounds like they took care of you though. Even if you don’t clean after every range trip, you should use gun oil in the usual spots every couple hundred rounds or so (slide, barrel, etc.). Only takes about 6-8 total drops. I’d use actual gun oil with an applicator where you can specifically direct the drops where you need them.
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Their description of the condition and what they did to it sounds SO far off how it could be based on the history you describe, that I have to wonder if they mixed up the description of what was done on yours, with the description of what they did to another.
Or what he said! . Was your barrel clean and unused when you got it back?
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Or what he said! . Was your barrel clean and unused when you got it back?
Yes - barrel seems clean and new to me, but I have to admit, it looked clean to me when I got the gun in the first place. I've taken it down and looked down the barrel both before and after getting it serviced, and I really don't see a difference.
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Their description of the condition and what they did to it sounds SO far off how it could be based on the history you describe, that I have to wonder if they mixed up the description of what was done on yours, with the description of what they did to another.
You could be right. I'm just so new to this that I have no reference point for what is "normal" and what is unusual. Thanks for your feedback.
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Every time I shoot one of my handguns I clean and lubricate no matter how many rounds I fire.
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