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Old 07-31-2020, 09:04 PM   #1
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One in chamber - concealed carry - P365XL

I have a feeling a lot of you have heard this question very often.

Sorry.

I searched the form and found similar questions for the p365. I wasn't sure if the XL was different.

I would like to understand why it's safe to carry P365XL without a safety and one in the chamber.

My understanding is that it's a double action weapon, and the trigger pull causes the striker to move in one direction and then back in the other. So without a trigger pull it's impossible for the striker to "fire" and have around go off while holstered.

I could not find an automation for Sig Sauer. I did for Glock.

If anyone knows exactly how the safety feature works, would you explain.

Thanks
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Old 07-31-2020, 09:22 PM   #2
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Donít pull the trigger and the gun wonít fire. I believe there is a firing channel block that has to be moved for the striker to hit the primer. Always carry your pistol in a holster that covers the trigger so that nothing can pull or snag it while it is holstered.
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I have a feeling a lot of you have heard this question very often.

Sorry.

I searched the form and found similar questions for the p365. I wasn't sure if the XL was different.

I would like to understand why it's safe to carry P365XL without a safety and one in the chamber.

My understanding is that it's a double action weapon, and the trigger pull causes the striker to move in one direction and then back in the other. So without a trigger pull it's impossible for the striker to "fire" and have around go off while holstered.

I could not find an automation for Sig Sauer. I did for Glock.

If anyone knows exactly how the safety feature works, would you explain.

Thanks
Here is a pretty in-depth analysis of the P365 action.

https://youtu.be/6oT9QpYsTUI
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you should get some training before you venture out in public with a firearm.

welcome from az.
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Old 08-01-2020, 10:43 AM   #5
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Having great trigger and muzzle discipline are all absolute attributes all firearm handlers should have. That being said, having a safety is an extra blanket of insurance against a negligent discharge. Striker fired weapons have a relatively short and light trigger stroke which can be pulled by simply getting a part of your shirt caught while re-holstering. Personally, the only guns I trust with no safety are my revolvers.
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Greetings from Kansas.

Your trigger finger is the safety. I carry with one in the chamber regardless of the handgun.
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Having great trigger and muzzle discipline are all absolute attributes all firearm handlers should have. That being said, having a safety is an extra blanket of insurance against a negligent discharge. Striker fired weapons have a relatively short and light trigger stroke which can be pulled by simply getting a part of your shirt caught while re-holstering. Personally, the only guns I trust with no safety are my revolvers.
You and me both. I will always like and carry revolvers when I feel like it. They work.
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Striker fired weapons have a relatively short and light trigger stroke which can be pulled by simply getting a part of your shirt caught while re-holstering. Personally, the only guns I trust with no safety are my revolvers.
Personally, the only holsters I trust are 1) rigid and, 2) ones that I have visually inspected to be clear prior to re-holstering.

Negligent discharges happen when re-holstering due to.....wait for it.....negligence.
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Greetings from Kansas.

Your trigger finger is the safety. I carry with one in the chamber regardless of the handgun.


Keep the trigger clear of all fingers or objects while performing any operation other than firing the gun. Iíve carried +1 with Glock, Kahr, and now Sig. My Sig does have a manual safety and I use it as a backup to keeping the trigger clear. If the trigger on my 365 was as rough/stiff as the safety on the first P365 I tried, I would have removed it and carried my gun without it.
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I have a feeling a lot of you have heard this question very often.

Sorry.

I searched the form and found similar questions for the p365. I wasn't sure if the XL was different.

I would like to understand why it's safe to carry P365XL without a safety and one in the chamber.

My understanding is that it's a double action weapon, and the trigger pull causes the striker to move in one direction and then back in the other. So without a trigger pull it's impossible for the striker to "fire" and have around go off while holstered.

I could not find an automation for Sig Sauer. I did for Glock.

If anyone knows exactly how the safety feature works, would you explain.

Thanks
The 365 is a single action pistol. The striker is fully cocked, pressing the trigger releases it firing the pistol.
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I have both the XL and the original P365. Internally they work the same. If you want to carry with a round chambered, but aren’t comfortable doing so, get one with the manual safety or add the manual safety as an upgrade.

As Argee said, focus on good trigger and muzzle discipline.

To build on what CovertCarry said: get a good holster, stiffened leather, kydex, or hybrid that fully covers the trigger and trigger guard and make sure to holster the gun before putting the holstered gun on your belt, either IWB or OWB, or pocketing it if you’re using a pocket holster.
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Greetings from Kansas.

Your trigger finger is the safety. I carry with one in the chamber regardless of the handgun.
same here for my 365. but it never leaves the holster. if it does outside a SD issue. i remove the chambered round. my single/double action CZ's though. all decockers only. no worries. chambered at quarter cock position at all times because there is no way it will accidently fire with the firing pin block up and the hammer in that position.
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Having great trigger and muzzle discipline are all absolute attributes all firearm handlers should have. That being said, having a safety is an extra blanket of insurance against a negligent discharge. Striker fired weapons have a relatively short and light trigger stroke which can be pulled by simply getting a part of your shirt caught while re-holstering. Personally, the only guns I trust with no safety are my revolvers.
That is why just about EVERY holster maker recommends removing holster from belt to reholster, then after inspecting inside of holster and reholstering gun, place it back on belt safely. A very sure way to make sure no FOD is in holster when reholstering, practically guaranteeing no negligent discharge!
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the 365 is a single action pistol. The striker is fully cocked, pressing the trigger releases it firing the pistol.
wrong!!!
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wrong!!!
Really? Enlighten me please.
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