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Old 07-23-2011, 12:26 PM   #1
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I may put a newer style 229 Equinox in lawaway on Monday, Does anyone know why they cut up the slide & installed a larger extractor on the newer equinox & is this suppose to be an improovement? Is the older style better than the newer style or is the newer style best? I kind of like the looks of the older style a little bit better, The newer style I dont like how they cut up the slide & it kind of ruins the looks of the gun a little bit in my opinion, another place for dirt & grime and I wonder if it could weaken the slide some.. other than that the gun is beautiful...



I like both new & old styles but was wondering if one style is better than the other. I've found the older styles on gun-broker but would rather purchase locally. Anyone have any advice before I purchase one of these styles of the 229 Equinox? I'm sure that I would be happy with either one.



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Old 07-23-2011, 12:31 PM   #2
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I don't believe you have anything to worry about as far as the slide being weakened by the extractor cut. The slide is milled from one solid piece of SS.
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I don't believe you have anything to worry about as far as the slide being weakened by the extractor cut. The slide is milled from one solid piece of SS.


I just think the cut ruins the beauty of the gun in my opinion..



Yeah...Maybe if I was smart I would just shut up & buy a P-226 Equinox & that will solve my problem..huh?
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I don't know why they went to the larger extractor, but when I worked in manufacturing, we had this way of thinking. It was "Continuous Improvement"... If Sig Sauer follows this philosophy, the larger extractor probably improves the functionality of the gun. If this is the case, Sig will make all of their models with the larger extractor. My vote is for the larger extractor.
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I don't know why they went to the larger extractor, but when I worked in manufacturing, we had this way of thinking. It was "Continuous Improvement"... If Sig Sauer follows this philosophy, the larger extractor probably improves the functionality of the gun. If this is the case, Sig will make all of their models with the larger extractor. My vote is for the larger extractor.


I wonder why the 226's don't have the larger extractor as of yet?





You know it might not be that bad...I just need to go see it in person & hold it & fondle it some & I bet that I would fall in love with it.. I just want to make sure I'm making the right choice, I do want it in 229 but may even go with a 226 if its not that much bulkier, I believe only 1/2 inch..
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You know it might not be that bad.........& I bet that I would fall in love with it.. I just want to make sure I'm making the right choice,






Go ahead, get it. Everyone loves their own children no matter what they look like .



sigp229r has a good point about the continuous improvement, I highly doubt that they would spend the money to re-tool if there wasn't a gain to be had in reliability. Aslo, keep in mind, that the slide is different. This type of extractor may work better than the other in this new slide.
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Go ahead, get it. Everyone loves their own children no matter what they look like .



sigp229r has a good point about the continuous improvement, I highly doubt that they would spend the money to re-tool if there wasn't a gain to be had in reliability. Aslo, keep in mind, that the slide is different. This type of extractor may work better than the other in this new slide.








I love all My Guns as if they were my children..



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Old 07-23-2011, 01:55 PM   #8
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The slide is the same style as the 226 though, Maybe they didn't get around to modifying the 226 yet... I'm sure you guy's are correct.. Sig wouldn't go through all the R&D & money for nothing & I haven't read any complaints about the gun at all, The more I look at it It's not all that bad looking, I'm sure I'd get use to it... When I see it in person & fondle it I'm sure I'll make a quick decision, Are the grip width on the 226 equinox a little bit thicker or the same?







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Just a heads up, if you get the Equinox and decide that you hate it, I will be glad to adopt it.
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I have the older style Equinox 220 Carry model. They are beautiful pistols, and you should have no concerns as fars as looks or dependability. Go with the newer model and enjoy every minute .....
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I can't base this on anything other than my own thoughts and speculation, but maybe the larger extractor is intended to have a second function as a loaded chamber indicator? I can't say this with any degree of certainty though.



About the point of 'continuous improvement' that has been the way Sig seems to be conducting their business. I know there is a pretty big debate about German made vs US made Sigs, but as far as I can tell with the P220, the changes made over the years were meant to improve the weapons.



1) The switch from 9mm to .45

2) The switch from a stamped steel slide to a single piece solid milled steel slide

3) The switch from the internal to external extractor

4) The switch to a heavier recoil spring (20lb)

5) and others!



All of these changes make the current P220 a more refined firearm than its original initial german production spec 20 or so odd years ago and increase the service life of the pistol. I think issues were encountered because the changes weren't made at the same time. For example, switching to the milled stainless steel slide before strengthing the recoil spring caused excessive wear on the aluminum frame etc.



Otherwise, continuous improvement abounds!
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Thanks for all of Your imput...



I look at it this way...I shoot right handed & the spent cartriges eject from the right side of the firearm so I won't see the extractor anyways...
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Thanks for all of Your imput...



I look at it this way...I shoot right handed & the spent cartriges eject from the right side of the firearm so I won't see the extractor anyways...




It wasn't explained to me why, but I was told somewhere (I honestly can't remember where) that the newer extractor is more reliable in this configuration. I have no idea why, haha.
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Sig makes a very high quality & reliable product and I hear that their customer service is very good also and if firearm is purchased new lifetime warranty,



sometimes maybe I worry to much about stuff but when your spending big bucks you want to make sure that your getting a quality product that will work well & be dependable & that you will get your money's worth & will have no problems with the product.
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I like the looks of the older model but I sure wouldn't worry about the newer one. Both are awesome looking guns!
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