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Old 01-08-2017, 12:59 PM   #1
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Lead issues cleaning the 226

I've had high blood lead levels from the indoor range at my club and have been using Speer CleanFire rounds with a bullet that's completely copper-enclosed, and with a lead free primer.

As I understand, there is no lead in the powder. I'm assuming when I clean the gun, I should not be having any lead in the spray from cleaning brushes for example. Am I correct?
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:21 PM   #2
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I don't see how that could do it. I would suspect the guilty source is the gun range unless there is some other source in your day to day life.
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Residual lead from OTHER shooters is the likely culprit. According to the CDC, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6316a3.htm, indoor ranges are a common source of lead poisoning. Makes senses when you think about it. When we fire a weapon, the brass casing is ejected with lead particles which end up in the air and on surfaces. A good ventilation system is critical to not injesting lead. I also take the precaution of washing my hands after I'm done shooting. I've also taken to wearing outerwear that I remove before entering my house and wash separately from the rest of the laundry. In fact, I rarely go to indoor ranges anymore, preferring outdoor ranges.
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Another excellent reason not to go to indoor ranges. An you thought you just avoided them because of the noise. Seriously - I prefer to shoot outdoors whenever possible.
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I never shoot indoors, never have been to an inside range.. What better practice than to shoot under all conditions, warm, cold, raining or snowing.
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I agree with all of your suggestions about where the lead is coming from and it is certainly the range. But I live in New York City, which has only one range in all of Manhattan, and it's the indoor range at the club where I belong. The outdoor ranges are about an hour's drive away.

So I'm when shooting there, I'm using a 3M OSHA mask to filter lead, an Ammo Broom instead of a standard broom to police my brass, scrubbing my hands afterward with De-Lead soap, and I'm removing the clothing I've worn to the range and washing it separately as described above.

I know where the lead is coming from. My question was about cleaning the gun at home. With the ammo I use, I can't figure out how there would be any lead in the gun to expose myself to. In other words, am I safe not to wear the OSHA mask at home while cleaning the pistol?
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I agree with all of your suggestions about where the lead is coming from and it is certainly the range. But I live in New York City, which has only one range in all of Manhattan, and it's the indoor range at the club where I belong. The outdoor ranges are about an hour's drive away.

So I'm when shooting there, I'm using a 3M OSHA mask to filter lead, an Ammo Broom instead of a standard broom to police my brass, scrubbing my hands afterward with De-Lead soap, and I'm removing the clothing I've worn to the range and washing it separately as described above.

I know where the lead is coming from. My question was about cleaning the gun at home. With the ammo I use, I can't figure out how there would be any lead in the gun to expose myself to. In other words, am I safe not to wear the OSHA mask at home while cleaning the pistol?
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Either use new brushes, or clean the old ones with mineral spirits. Then you should be OK.

My concern for you is this: How are your lungs from inhaling the lead fumes?

If breathing is a problem around caustic/aromatic hydrocarbons, then maybe go to something much less nasty like breakfree or ballistol.

I would think that Hoppes might cause a problem to already sensitive areas in your body.

But to the lead question you should be OK
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am I safe not to wear the OSHA mask at home while cleaning the pistol?
It sounds like you've mitigated the possibility of further lead ingestion. Maybe switch to non-toxic CLPs like Ballistol or Froglube?
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I always use thin Rubber Gloves to clean all of my Firearms.
I've never thought about using a Mask.

Rubber Gloves like a Dr. uses is what I use. I don't allow oil or solvents to come in contact with my hands. I use sever pair when cleaning a Firearm. When I was younger I never thought about it.
I know this may sound Stupid but,
Take several pairs of Gloves to the Range or when ever you load any Ammo.
It's not perfect but it may help others who have Too much Lead in their system.
Good Luck.
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Either use new brushes, or clean the old ones with mineral spirits. Then you should be OK.

My concern for you is this: How are your lungs from inhaling the lead fumes?

If breathing is a problem around caustic/aromatic hydrocarbons, then maybe go to something much less nasty like breakfree or ballistol.

I would think that Hoppes might cause a problem to already sensitive areas in your body.

But to the lead question you should be OK
Breathing is fine, as far as I can tell, no symptoms there. I've been using M Pro 7 products to clean the gun, no smells, water soluble stuff, in a ventilated area. Thanks for the tip on new brushes, very good idea, I didn't think of that one.

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I always use thin Rubber Gloves to clean all of my Firearms.
I've never thought about using a Mask.

Rubber Gloves like a Dr. uses is what I use. I don't allow oil or solvents to come in contact with my hands. I use sever pair when cleaning a Firearm. When I was younger I never thought about it.
I know this may sound Stupid but,
Take several pairs of Gloves to the Range or when ever you load any Ammo.
It's not perfect but it may help others who have Too much Lead in their system.
Good Luck.
I always wear latex gloves as well. With the lead free Speer cartridges and the above suggestions, I thinks I'm OK not to need a mask to clean the gun.
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You do know that most primers contain lead too, there are lead free primers but I don't know who uses them, have only really noticed with the small primered 45's.
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You do know that most primers contain lead too, there are lead free primers but I don't know who uses them, have only really noticed with the small primered 45's.
That was the biggest change I made. Started using Speer CleanFire lead-free- primer cartridges with 100% copper coated lead bullets.
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