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Old 04-12-2017, 01:15 PM   #31
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I just finished doing a buddy's 226rx da/sa. I put in a SRT kit first.
I filed down about 85% of the delrin pin before I installed it. I got F'd up because I didn't have the trigger pin grooves facing down....doh.

I went back at it the next AM & couldn't get the DA to reset. I saw a post on 1911addicts.com & sent the (ArmoryCraft) owner a pm. My concern was taking off too much of the pin. He responded quickly & stated the models vary so much, he'd had customers tell him they almost filed the pin flat/flush.
I went at it (filed) the pin down to about .003-005" & badda-bing it works like a charm.
My buddy's P226rx DA/SA has literally next to NO take-up in DA, and with the SRT & over travel set screw dialed in she's GTG.

Good product just not the ABSOLUTE clearest instructions. They should take the time to do a CONCISE YouTube vid. Just my $.02. 4 1/2 stars on the product, 2 1/2 stars on instructions. YMMV

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Old 04-12-2017, 01:48 PM   #32
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Yes, mine has almost none of that delrin pin left. Mine also has almost zero take up in double action too. I was worried that maybe I was taking off too much as well, but decided oh well I'll keep going and worst thing I will a little extra take up.
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I just finished doing a buddy's 226rx da/sa. I put in a SRT kit first.
I filed down about 85% of the delrin pin before I installed it. I got F'd up because I didn't have the trigger pin grooves facing down....doh.

I went back at it the next AM & couldn't get the DA to reset. I saw a post on 1911addicts.com & sent the (ArmoryCraft) owner a pm. My concern was taking off too much of the pin. He responded quickly & stated the models vary so much, he'd had customers tell him they almost filed the pin flat/flush.
I went at it (filed) the pin down to about .003-005" & badda-bing it works like a charm.
My buddy's P226rx DA/SA has literally next to NO take-up in DA, and with the SRT & over travel set screw dialed in she's GTG.

Good product just not the ABSOLUTE clearest instructions. They should take the time to do a CONCISE YouTube vid. Just my $.02. 4 1/2 stars on the product, 2 1/2 stars on instructions. YMMV

George
When pulling the trigger did you notice some flex?
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:36 PM   #34
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When pulling the trigger did you notice some flex?
I had to go get it out of the safe. No flex of the actual trigger. There is a TINY bit of side to side play on the pivot pin, but my SAO Legion has at least the same if not more play/rock on it's pivot pin of the trigger bar.

If you grab (thumb & fore finger, around the trigger guard) either the AC or SAO Legion trigger while at rest, you can feel the slight side to side rocking on both. It does not affect or impair the operation of either trigger.

Does that help any?


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I went at it (filed) the pin down to about .003-005" & badda-bing it works like a charm.
What a great feeling when that trigger resets the DA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I too was sweating bullets.
I installed two of these triggers. The first one had a final measurement of 0.015" and the second one 0.018". The first one took me a while but on the second installation I had already paid my dues, it was a breeze. I am very satisfied with this trigger so far.
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I had to go get it out of the safe. No flex of the actual trigger. There is a TINY bit of side to side play on the pivot pin, but my SAO Legion has at least the same if not more play/rock on it's pivot pin of the trigger bar.

If you grab (thumb & fore finger, around the trigger guard) either the AC or SAO Legion trigger while at rest, you can feel the slight side to side rocking on both. It does not affect or impair the operation of either trigger.

Does that help any?


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Yeah, my factory triggers have more play compared to the armory Craft trigger.
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What a great feeling when that trigger resets the DA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I too was sweating bullets.

I installed two of these triggers. The first one had a final measurement of 0.015" and the second one 0.018". The first one took me a while but on the second installation I had already paid my dues, it was a breeze. I am very satisfied with this trigger so far.


Yep. Same here bud. Scratched my head for a few until I realized it wasn't resetting reliably. Second one tool maybe 10 minutes if that.

Now I'm just waiting for the SAO version.

Does anyone know if these fit the X5 all around? I have two of them and would love to get those triggers in for those too.
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Does anyone know if these fit the X5 all around? I have two of them and would love to get those triggers in for those too.
Answering my own question, which is yes!

I posted pics in this new thread under the X5 pistol section.

http://sigtalk.com/x-series-sport-ma...ll-around.html
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Good customer service from Armory Craft...

....and some...uh......good advice from the makers of the Flat Trigger.

You'll recall, I filed one of my pre-travel pins down too far on the first install and asked Armory Craft if they would send a replacement.

Got TWO replacement pins in the mail today....

OK, kids, just remember:

"The little tip needs to go in first..."

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If you are seeing lateral play in your trigger, whether stock or Armory Craft, it will most likely be due to wear of the trigger pivot pin, rather than the trigger itself, at least that's what I've seen measuring the diameter of the wear spots on the pin (out of round). This is on some higher round count guns where lubing the trigger pivot was neglected. Most guns don't get detail stripped that often . . . but you can still lube the pin by dribbling a bit of oil down the sides of the trigger so it reaches the pin, then wipe off excess.

As to the earlier question about the durability of the plastic tipped set screw, as I recall it's nylon, should last very well, though Delrin is better still, it's not to fret about.

My favorite thread locker for apps where you may want to later adjust or to fix grip screws etc, it Vibra-Tite. You apply it to the threads and let it dry (unlike most Loctite). Then it's good for several install remove cycles, with no issues removing.

I received my A. Craft trigger the other day. Haven't installed it yet. Very impressed with the design and machining. Good stuff!
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....and some...uh......good advice from the makers of the Flat Trigger.



You'll recall, I filed one of my pre-travel pins down too far on the first install and asked Armory Craft if they would send a replacement.



Got TWO replacement pins in the mail today....



OK, kids, just remember:



"The little tip needs to go in first..."



Northlight


LMAO! Quit filing your nub down too far Northlight...
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