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Old 01-13-2012, 04:25 PM   #1
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Would you use Wolf ammo in a P290?

I tried about 10 kinds of ammo during my first range trip with the 290, including a mag of Wolf. I have to say that it was one of the hottest loads tried and the flat primers show it. It had more recoil than UMC, Olympic, Speer Gold Dot and SXT although not as much velocity as Gold Dot (but still over 1050pfs)

Is the regular use of cheap hot ammo like Wolf for practice bad for the little frame?
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:33 PM   #2
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I find this has a higher rate of of jam vs. brass loads in my 229. I won't use it again once done with my current stock.
I rate this as very low quality...
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I would never use Wolf ammo. In fact, most of the local ranges near me do not allow Wolf ammo to be shot in their range. To me, it shoots dirty and I do experience more failure.
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I agree. I wouldn't shoot Wolf in a Hi-Point. If I had one.



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I always used to agree and since I reload I have never had the need to worry about it. However... I am revisiting 9mm since I got the new pocket rocket but have not reloaded 9mm since the 90's (my go-to calibers have been 45 & 40). I have a stock of 9mm but don't want to use it up practicing. 9mm is somewhat a PITA to reload - small tapered case, touchy OAL, etc. and the fact that loaded ammo is almost the same cost as what it cost me to reload...(about $13/100) plus my time, I figured I would see what cheap blasting ammo is available thus a box of Tula is $7 and change vs $12 for Federal at WalMart. That's a big difference when you buy any quantity.

I fired some I already had and there were no issues as far as functionality or reliability and it was surprisingly more accurate than some of the high priced brands out of both the 290 and my SW-3913. However I did notice it seemed quite snappy in the recoil and just felt like a hotter loading than the other brands I tried and the primers were a little flatter.
So my question is oriented toward cheap practice and getting to know the little gun better before switching to something more like whatever I decide to use a carry fodder.
As long as it goes bang in my gun, I'm more interested in if it is safe (pressure wise) to use in the P290 in quantity, and not so much other preferences.

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I wouldn't use it; brass casings, when rubbed, scrape off as brass. Easy to clean.

Steel casings will rub off their polymer coatings, which might be hard to clean off. The Russian batches will also be off in quality, I had some Barnaul .308 rounds which would hang-fire for half a second before going bang.

For cheap ammo I'd wait for a big shipment of good surplus or military ammo to come in to ammotogo.com or sgammo.com
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Wolf brass seems to operate just fine - I don't mind using it periodically. But it is hard to clean.

Wolf steel will never be chambered in my firearms again.
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I've never used Wolf brand ammo before. But I regularly use steel-case and steel-jacket ammo in my SIGs (and other handguns) without concern. I "broke in" my first SIG P229 with 500 rounds of Brown Bear 9mm and Tula .45 Auto is one of the most accurate loads I shoot in my P220. I've never had any of the steel ammo fail to function.

I do admit to being a bit obsessive about cleaning my guns after every use. That any range ammo is dirtier than other brands doesn't really matter to me because I'll be cleaning the gun anyway.

If you can locate it at a good price, my favorite range ammo in 9mm is still GECO 124 gr. FMJ. It's Swiss-made and a steel-jacket, full-power 9mm round, highly consistent and very accurate. I was lucky in gobbling up a few cases of it last year when ATG had it a bargain prices. I recommend this ammo to everybody who wants good 9mm range ammo. I just haven't seen it for sale anywhere recently.
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Don't use it. Heard it's dirty, the steel case [arguably] accelerates ejector wear, [some of it] it's Russian, too much good priced ammo from better sources.
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My local indoor range will not allow Wolf or Tul-Ammo to be fired there. They have several signs posted throughput the facility about it. When I asked why I got 2 answers.
1) "It is bad for your gun. its steel and will ruin the rifling in your barrel".(Whether or not this is true I don't know).
2) It causes sparks downrange which is a fire hazard in our building. (This I have seen before the guy shooting it was told to stop when rangemaster realized he was using the banned ammo.)
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My local indoor range will not allow Wolf or Tul-Ammo to be fired there. They have several signs posted throughput the facility about it. When I asked why I got 2 answers.
1) "It is bad for your gun. its steel and will ruin the rifling in your barrel".(Whether or not this is true I don't know).
2) It causes sparks downrange which is a fire hazard in our building. (This I have seen before the guy shooting it was told to stop when rangemaster realized he was using the banned ammo.)
They're not really sparks, it's just powder flash. But it is more prevalent to see in cheaper ammo.

Side note: if a shooting range has anything flammable beyond the firing line (other than a paper target), then they're asking for trouble. Hate to break it to 'em, but dirty gunpowder isn't the only thing causing heat and flames in the range...
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I tried about 10 kinds of ammo during my first range trip with the 290, including a mag of Wolf. I have to say that it was one of the hottest loads tried and the flat primers show it. It had more recoil than UMC, Olympic, Speer Gold Dot and SXT although not as much velocity as Gold Dot (but still over 1050pfs)

Is the regular use of cheap hot ammo like Wolf for practice bad for the little frame?
No, don't use that ammo, bought some junk ammo from Academy called
Monarch, my P 290 jammed like crazy never use that brand & Wolf is even worse.
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No, don't use that ammo, bought some junk ammo from Academy called
Monarch, my P 290 jammed like crazy never use that brand & Wolf is even worse.
Once you break in your P290 the Monarch ammo should cycle fine. I use it for plinking and have only ever had one jam - a stovepipe.
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Once you break in your P290 the Monarch ammo should cycle fine. I use it for plinking and have only ever had one jam - a stovepipe.
your kidding me I have never had a jam before, I used Monarch, & had every kind of trouble imagineable jams, FTF, FTE it was horrible, switch to a different kind of plinking ammo & everything has been OK
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your kidding me I have never had a jam before, I used Monarch, & had every kind of trouble imagineable jams, FTF, FTE it was horrible, switch to a different kind of plinking ammo & everything has been OK
Keep in mind I was using Monarch brass - not steel-cased.
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