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Old 12-12-2019, 10:43 AM   #31
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My P226 shoots low also for the exact reasons you gave. My aim must be wrong.
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Old 12-12-2019, 12:06 PM   #32
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Instead of reposting all of the charts, and information, check out this thread in the Sticky Section, in Gunsmithing https://sigtalk.com/sig-sauer-gunsmi...ng-sights.html
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Old 12-12-2019, 12:30 PM   #33
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Aim.

Higher.



Or you can change your sights to allow you to shoot that short distance.



Bullets start falling the moment they leave the barrel. Sights are set to aim the barrel to compensate for the fall, by aiming it higher to create an arc in the path of the bullet to impact the target at a given distance.



At 7 - 10 feet, your bullet is still low in the arc when you're sights are set to impact at 10 yards.



Having given you that information, help me understand why you are concerned at impacts at 7-10 feet?



If you're shooting at any hard surface/target at that distance - it's unsafe.
After my first session, I adjusted and then my grouping started to get smaller around 2 and 1/2 inch or so. The adjustment is taking the front sight and putting it about 4 and 1/2 inches above the bullseye.

During this time I proximately had about 250 rounds in the gun.

With the last two hundred or so, I ain't that the same height however now the bullets are going way below the bullseye. This is happened the last two sessions I've been at the range

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Old 12-12-2019, 01:00 PM   #34
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If your Sig shoots low your Glock will most likely shoot low and your Springfield will most likely shoot low and your H&K will also most likely shoot low......when you shoot it.

I remember taking a class and telling my instructor my gun won't hit that target from here unless I aim 10 inches high. He took my gun and aimed 10 inches high......he hit 10" high.

He said your guns fine must be someone else.

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Old 12-13-2019, 04:46 PM   #35
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If your Sig shoots low your Glock will most likely shoot low and your Springfield will most likely shoot low and your H&K will also most likely shoot low......when you shoot it.

I remember taking a class and telling my instructor my gun won't hit that target from here unless I aim 10 inches high. He took my gun and aimed 10 inches high......he hit 10" high.

He said your guns fine must be someone else.

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Oh; so true.

The greatest "instructor" was following the advice of my SIG CSR, who suggested the SIG bench rest test. It took about 30-40 minutes to dial it in to shooting dead on bullseye. Once I achieved the proper sight window; I could do nearly the same in combat stance. It was a miraculous day!

Now; it's a matter of how quickly I can reacquire the sight window after sending a round down range. It's a works in progress, but practice makes perfect.
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Old 02-24-2020, 09:44 AM   #36
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A data point:

My NIB M11-A1 in 9mm has a #6 Front Sight and a #8 Rear Sight.

I just picked up today and I have not fired it. I -thought- that it would be #8/#8, based on what I'd been seeing on this forum.

Obviously, without having fired it, I have no idea how POI/POA works with this particular firearm with this particular set of sights.

Just wanted to share an observation of how it came from the factory.
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Old 02-24-2020, 09:53 AM   #37
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A data point:

My NIB M11-A1 in 9mm has a #6 Front Sight and a #8 Rear Sight.

I just picked up today and I have not fired it. I -thought- that it would be #8/#8, based on what I'd been seeing on this forum.

Obviously, without having fired it, I have no idea how POI/POA works with this particular firearm with this particular set of sights.

Just wanted to share an observation of how it came from the factory.
The correct "hold" will still be the Combat Hold (see opening post). The difference between the #6 and a #8 front sight would be no more than an inch of elevation at 25 yards. Sig may have installed a #6 due to the depth of the sight groove.
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Old 02-24-2020, 11:04 AM   #38
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Sight numbers can be any combo.
6/8 for 9mm is pretty common.
I've seen 229's and 226's with 8/6 as well.
I have an old 220 with 8/8 sights.
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Old 03-04-2020, 04:40 AM   #39
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My 1992 made P220 .45 hits POA at 25 yards, but my 1996 made P228 9mm hits 12 - 14 inches low at 25 yards.



I find for bulleye targets the "combat hold" completely covering the bullseye means I can't see what I am aiming at (a silhouette target would be a different story) which is why I rather do the half/half hold.
My friend has a lot of golf balls hanging on string at his range. Combat hold makes hitting a golf ball pretty tough, much like trying to hit the smaller steel discs.

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My friend has a lot of golf balls hanging on string at his range. Combat hold makes hitting a golf ball pretty tough, much like trying to hit the smaller steel discs.

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Is your friend auditioning to be the villain in the next Ant-Man movie?

Seriously though Sig makes target pistols that are designed for target shooting and use a different sight picture. I feel like the above complaint is similar to "my F350 got whooped at the local drag races". Your F350 wasn't designed to rule the drag strip. Sig duty style pistols are expected to produce 2 inch groups at 10 yards. A golf ball only has a 1.68" diameter.

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Sorry but this popped into my head when I read the title.

Does your Sig shoot low

Does it wobble to and fro

Can you tie it in a knot

Can you tie it in a bow

Can you throw it over your shoulder like a continental soldier

Does your Sig shoot low?



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Old 03-04-2020, 08:13 AM   #42
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Not complaining, just sayin'! Always trying to get better. I just picked up a 22lr conversion for the P226 that has adjustable sights, that should help the situation!

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Only when I point it low.
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OP you might also want to include mention that shooters sometimes shoot low and left (RH shooters) when they are anticipating the recoil or flinching. Your post is more about the sight picture, but I think this situation will be relevant to people who open the thread for help.
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At typical combat pistol shooting distances, gravity has little time to make a measurable difference in POA vs POI (point of aim/impact). Yet bullet weight and speed obviously do. In the same gun, with the same slide and sights (say a P229 with 40 and 357 barrel) the lighter and faster 357 Sig bullet will shoot lower.

The reason for this is that upon ignition two things happen at the same time. The bullet heads down the barrel and the slide starts moving to the rear as the breach end of the barrel starts to cam downward. This camming down of the barrel rear serves to delay unlock, so chamber pressure has a chance to drop before spent case extraction. It has the same effect as would raising the muzzle end of the barrel. Since the slower bullet, stays in the barrel longer, this barrel tilt has more of an effect on its point of impact than it would on a faster bullet, as the barrel breach is still camming down at bullet exit.

This phenomenon is the reason SIG uses different sights as standard on the 9mm and 357 guns vs the slower 40.
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