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Old 03-22-2012, 07:50 AM   #1
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Refinishing Alloy Frames

I've just acquired my first Sig. A P226 Equinox. It was not lovingly cared for in its previous home so I would like to try to restore it to new appearance. Mainly has a few chips scattered over the frame. Slide is in reasonably good shape.

I've seen a number of options for refinishing stainless frames. I've not found much on the restoration of the alloy frames.

Any suggestions of type of coating and vendors?

Thanks

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Old 03-22-2012, 08:27 AM   #2
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Cummings Custom Refinishing

Customized Creationz Custom Gun Works Shop

I believe both of them will refinish alloy frames.
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There is no one who can refinish an alloy frame and have it remain within the tolerance limits demanded by the factory at the time the gun was made. The Internet is full of guns for sale from guys who have sent their frames off to be refinished (read ruined) and then put them up for sale just as soon as they get them back after they realize they will no longer function properly. It's a rip-off looking for a sucker. Don't be the next one. Slides can be successfully refinished. Alloy frames cannot.
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I was under the impression, but not sure, that alloy frames could be re-annodized, perhaps not.
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There is no one who can refinish an alloy frame and have it remain within the tolerance limits demanded by the factory at the time the gun was made. The Internet is full of guns for sale from guys who have sent their frames off to be refinished (read ruined) and then put them up for sale just as soon as they get them back after they realize they will no longer function properly. It's a rip-off looking for a sucker. Don't be the next one. Slides can be successfully refinished. Alloy frames cannot.
Interesting and disappointing. As I do a bit more research I find the following comment on the Sig site regarding CPO'ed weapons.

"To maintain the tolerances and performance standards of a SIG SAUER pistol, the hard anodize alloy frames are not re-anodized."

Edit: Just spoke with Josh at Sig Sauer and he directed me to http://customizedcreationz.com/. I asked him specifically why they don't do this for their CPO'ed weapons and if there is a tolerance problem when having someone like Customized Creationz re-anodize and he said that they will know not to coat rails that would cause these types of problems.

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It's a rip-off looking for a sucker. Don't be the next one. Slides can be successfully refinished. Alloy frames cannot.
Don't know where you get your information, but you are wrong. I have had alloy frames refinished before and never a problem. Either of these two companies do fantastic work.

Customized Creationz Custom Gun Works Shop

Cummings Custom Refinishing

Here is my latest. It shoots as good as any of my newer guns and is 36 years old. Both the slide and the frame have been refinished, and I can run box after box of ammo through it and never a hiccup.



To the OP...just pick a reputable refinisher and get it done the way you want it.
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Just curious, who did the refinish on that sig? Very nice looking. Did they stay away from the rails as Josh at SIG advised?
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Don't know where you get your information, but you are wrong. I have had alloy frames refinished before and never a problem. Either of these two companies do fantastic work.

Customized Creationz Custom Gun Works Shop

Cummings Custom Refinishing

Here is my latest. It shoots as good as any of my newer guns and is 36 years old. Both the slide and the frame have been refinished, and I can run box after box of ammo through it and never a hiccup.



To the OP...just pick a reputable refinisher and get it done the way you want it.

That's very NICE!!!
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Just curious, who did the refinish on that sig? Very nice looking. Did they stay away from the rails as Josh at SIG advised?
This one was done by Cummings Custom Refinishing And no they didn't stay away from the rails.



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When one knows the annodizing process and what it actually does you know the tolerances are out of whack from origional manufacture if you "reannodize" . Josh id correct fro a manufacture's point of view for liability reasons. You could refinish using a "paint job" process but even that way I would stay away from the rails. SIGP229 looks beautiful.How hard have those rails been run on that refinish? BTW a bit of TLC from new makes this all moot
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Very nice job!!

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This one was done by Cummings Custom Refinishing And no they didn't stay away from the rails.



Looks like a very nice job there. Don't see where there would be any problems with fit there. Sig allows for some looseness between the slide and frame anyway, and the thickness of the anodizing or finish would only be microns thick so if anything, it would improve and tighten the fit to some extent. Want an interesting read on re-anodizing, etc., go here and scroll down aways:
Gunsmithing: pistols & revolvers - Patrick Sweeney - Google Books
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Josh id correct fro a manufacture's point of view for liability reasons. You could refinish using a "paint job" process but even that way I would stay away from the rails. SIGP229 looks beautiful.How hard have those rails been run on that refinish? BTW a bit of TLC from new makes this all moot
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The gun has not been shot a lot yet. But keep in mind this is a 36 year old gun, that was fairly loose to start with<G>. The CPII finish adds some lubricity of it's own, so it is smooth as butta

This was a project that i went into knowing I would never sell this gun for what I have in it (given the refinish, wood grips, shipping, etc.) nor would I want to.

But the bottom line is, it turned out just the way I wanted. So I am a happy camper.
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