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Discontinued Sigs 2018

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#1 ·
I was at my LGS this afternoon and looking st single stack DA/SA Sigs. I took a liking to the 239 and the 225a1. Then the owner told me that’s the last of those pistols he could get. He said the p239 tatical that I was looking at was discontinued and the p225 as a whole had been dropped. I checked the 2018 catalog and the p225 was there with no p239. Can someone clarify this to me please. I prefer the grip of the p225 but the one he had was on layaway. I am finding it hard to find a new one in the button finish. Are they really discontinued by Sig?
 
#7 ·
Surprisingly, I would’ve settled for the p239 until handling the p225a1. The grips were so-so I thought. I didn’t enjoy how my pinky just hit the bottom of the magazine baseplate. While holding the same amount of rounds the p225 just felt more balanced and better in my hands. I say this now then when I get a p225a1 in my waistband I’ll be wanting a p239, I bet!
 
#9 ·
I am still flabbergasted at the P239's discontinuation. Single stack hammer-fired pistols are a rarity, and while everyone is in love with the Plastic Fantastic Strikers right now, the winds are starting to blow the opposite way.

Appendix IWB carry has really picked up a lot of steam (I myself went from scoffing at the idea to being an ardent supporter), and a many of those guys want a hammer fired DA/SA for extra safety when holstering. Springfield Armory (I know, I know) came out with the XD-E in part to satisfy this lack of options for a single stack hammer fired pistol.

Maybe Sig knows something I don't, but the P365 is not a replacement for the P239, they fulfill similar, but strikingly different roles. It can be argued that the P224 would have bumped heads with the P365's market, but even that I think is a stretch. AFAIK the P224 was discontinued because it wasn't popular enough, something that I believed was not a problem with the P239.

Before anyone mentions the P225-A1 I thought about that too, and if anything it should have been discontinued as the P239 is slightly smaller while still being available in three different calibers. P225s are neat and I want one, but they really don't do anything the P239 doesn't so the axing of the latter confuses me.

Hopefully Sig will at least support them for some time, or even better, bring them back at a later date.
 
#10 ·
I have a P239 and haven't yet been able to afford a P225. I handled a 225-A1 in Manassas this weekend and like the balance of it better. I like my P239 but the slide feels like a brick on it compared to the 225. Maybe there was some logic or reasoning - other than bean counting - for discontinuing the 239...
 
#11 · (Edited)
I think that as long as the P239 was in production, it would be taking sales from the P225A1 and SIG recognized that maintaining production of both models was not going to be profitable, possibly for both models.

Don't get me wrong, I own and appreciate the strength of the P239 and I would love to own a P225A1 though it would never replace my 239 in the carry rotation. But the reality of it is that SIG doesn't make money off how much I like my 239, only from the ones they sell. And if a model doesn't sell...then what else is there to do?
 
#12 ·
I definitely see how close the two models are. However, I could see a market in both. Then I realized I had to do some digging to find these guns. I had to decide I was anti-glock then that I prefer DA/SA for carry. That group will be smaller than the group a p365 with have to sell to. That being said as preferable the two are to me, I realize we are outliers in the CCW market. That being said, I hate that they’re going-but I guess I get it.

Following that, I first handled a 239 with hogue grips that made the controls very hard to reach. Then my pinky hit right on the bottom edge of the magazine. As much as I want to get the 239 for EDC the 225a1 seems more comfortable for me. The 239 seems like a slightly larger glock 43 while the 225a1 seems like a slightly larger shield-for general comparison. While the 239 may be easier to conceal, I prefer a pistol I can practice with. The awkward grips on the 239 just kill it for me. So now, I’m in search of a 225a1 with wood grips. However, I’ve heard SIG will sell the grips separately which should open up my options. I will have to ditch the sights for a set of X-Rays as shooting a set of them on Legions has spoiled me!
 
#13 ·
Look at the bright side. With the P239 off the shelf, maybe SIG will move forward with the 357 and 40 CALX Kits for the P225A1. That's probably my biggest complaint with it; only available in 9mm. Well that and the unnecessarily restricted capacity given the mag baseplate design.
 
#14 ·
My complaint would go to the lack of calibers and that funky baseplate! I also have looked for some extended magazines and only found 1 brand-promag I believe. I wish Sig made a flat fitting that gave the gun 9+1. Just seems wasteful! But then again the grips between a 239 and 225 are certainly different lengths, yet they both hold 8+1. That seems messed up!
 
#16 ·
Sigken,

Nothing we can really do about it. I’m figuring that if they change them-it’ll be a mag change instead of frame change. I tell myself that to ease my mind as I look for a pistol to purchase. Been too long without buying one recently
 
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