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Old 06-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #1
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938 NIGHTMARE (the bad kind)

Good Morning! I picked up my Nightmare Saturday. my range testing was abysmal. of 40 rounds through (was of no frame of mind to put more down) I HAD 6 fte events. a 15% fail to ehect is not satisfactory. I'm not "limp writing" it either. the rounds are simply not coming out of the tube. they are nto sticking, either. In each case, I lock the slide, drop the mag and hold the pistol up, and the brass drops clear.

I'm not sure if it's an extrator issue, or what. maybe a bad batch of ammo. I have notices that when i too was racking rounds through, there were fairlly deep scratches on the brass, running the length of the rounds. I'm hoping some different ammo will cure the ill, or perhaps a thourough oiling.

I would appreciate thoughts
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Shot my 938 Sunday 100 rounds of blazer- pmc- critical defense-gold-dot no failures but shoots low to left.

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What type of ammo are you using?
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:31 AM   #4
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Only ammo the range had was atlantic arms. Thier "house" brand. I'm thinking i will buy some remington later and try again. I was sparing on the oiling maybe it likes being a bit wetter than the othr pistols i have
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Seems like these guys are shooting low and left as well, but they are doing well with reliability.


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Seems like these guys are shooting low and left as well, but they are doing well with reliability.
actually the rounds i got to paper were left and slightly high, not low.

Here is a photo of the scratches I have been seeing. I don't know if it's a burr or the extractor or what

Edit. i did some checking, and i marked the top of the round with a sharpie. the pistol is scratching it on the top, about 1/8 inch to the left of center


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Old 06-05-2012, 01:56 AM   #7
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Not saying this is causing your FTE issue, but you might want to inspect the top lip of your mag(s) for a burr causing that scratch on the casing.
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I don't see how it's possible to be the mag

Also the pic illustrates how the rounds can hang on the mag release

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UPDATE: Ran 100 rounds of FMJ (WWB and Federal) without a misfire hang or nay other problem. on impulse, I bought a box of Hornaday Critical Defender and got a double feed on rounds 2 and 3. I think the Hornaday rounds are too sharp nosed. after then next 100 FMJs, I'll try Cor-Bons for a defense load
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a good friend of mine had the same prob... he sent it to sig,got it back in about a month with a polished feed ramp and the issue was gone....
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I'm resisting sending it out. I suspect another 100 rounds of FMJ and then a box of defense ammo that's not so sharp nosed and I think I'll be fine. I AM saving my pennies to get the old gilr sent to sig for a rebuild. only God knows how many miles are on her.
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Put another 100 or so rounds of FMJ through it, clean it, and then try some Hornady Critical Defense and Cor-Bon like you said. If it won't feed that ammo reliably, then it probably won't feed any hollow points reliably and will need to go back to SIG.



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I don't see how it's possible to be the mag

Also the pic illustrates how the rounds can hang on the mag release

Yes, I see your point. The mag clearly isn't the source of the scratch.

In his Guns and Ammo review of the P938, Sweeney describes the unique pickup rail design: "Interestingly, the pick-up rail of the slide (that’s the part that strips a round out of the magazine) has a top cartridge control bump. The lump you’ll see under there keeps the top round in the magazine in position, so the violence of the recoil doesn’t cause it to shift around and then cause feeding problems."
Could that "top cartridge control bump" be the source of the scratch?

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don't know. might just be the hard spring forcing it hard into the top of the chamber. got it at a sig smith now getting the sight picture looked at
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I'm starting to notice a patern with the nightmare on all the posts I am reading.
Plus I noticed sigs web site does not have the nightmare shown anymore.
The ports I have read about the extreme have all been good.
Just saying.
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