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P227 - resale $ are disappointing.

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#1 ·
Picked up a P227 SAS model a few years ago. Expensive purchase for my budget. The gun is in like new condition and I was considering selling it and getting a 1911 9mm Officers.
Trying to sell or trade locally. No interest what so ever. Talked with the owner of a local LGS and he stated there is just no interest in them in this market.
I really do not want to take a bath in selling this
gun but dang...
Just venting and I thank you for listening.
 
#2 ·
Most new model guns are like new cars. Resale value is somewhat lower. Now if it were a West German your situation would be much different. This is exactly the reason I only buy older Sigs in nice condition.
 
#8 ·
the p227 was a flop, the 14rd debacle killed it. I rarely ever see a new p227 out. Sad but sig failures of late have all been USA made guns

I agree totally. I try to avoid all products that are 'Made In USA'. There is very little that is made in the USA that is not made better elsewhere. SIG has had WAY too many blunders lately, they rarely had these when guns were made in Germany. As mentioned above ...I also only buy German/W.German SIGs and can pretty much sell at 'my price'. IMHO SIG is living off of a name that they 'earned' many years ago when guns were made by craftsmen and attention to detail was important. Now SIGs are just 'fodder' from an assembly line.


Good luck with the sale. You may try a local gun show and be open to trades.




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#38 ·
I agree. I am an older shooter who has decided to sell off some of his “collection”. Over the past four years I have bought, sold and swapped a number of guns both through Sigtalk and through local groups. A few months ago it was like a brick wall went up. Things that would normally sell within hours do not even get an inquiry.

I had a 220 and 227 and decided to sell the 227. It took 4 months but I found a great swap deal. Great gun but just no name recognition among the masses like the 220. My local gun shop has had the same experience. In local clubs, which include a lot of newbies there seems to be a price ceiling of $500. Go beyond that and interest falls off quickly. That makes it tough when you are selling Sigs.
 
#6 ·
The market it is pretty soft for guns right now. Wait and see if the left wingnuts take over in November and you might get a higher price for it. Then again, you might not want to sell it then.

Like used cars, LGSs will never give you what an individual will to either purchase or take it in on trade. They want to re-sell it fast and with the highest profit margin in their pocket, not yours.
 
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#9 ·
I know 2 people trying to sell revolvers and one an auto and they said they didn't even get a hit on them the first time advertised ..

Guns don't seem to be moving and many I have seen are over priced for the market of today !!
 
#15 ·
I picked up a P227SAS for $500.00 with 4 ten round mags.
I also bought the P227R which I had a Safariland holster that fit.

When I found out the SAS would not fit the same holster (The 4.4 and 3.9 are very different guns that take the same mag) I sold the SAS.

I regretted that and wished I had kept the SAS but as stated the gun market is down and I would not pay more than $500.00 total for a mint P227 SAS in this market.

As mentioned hold on to it and the market will come back but that might not be until 2021 if they get a socialist in the white house and then all guns will skyrocket in price

I disagree the P227 was a failure and I disagree all US made Sigs are trash.
I love my M11A-1s and P229SAS as well as my P220s but I also love my P228s
IMO the finest SD pistol right now by anyone is the M11A-1

I wish that Sig never made a 9MM P229 and simply started making a P228 with a milled slide but alas their engineers at Sig are no longer German gunsmiths, they are lawyers and accountants
 
#19 ·
You got a good deal with the P227 SAS. I personally thing the SAS model is more desirable than the railed P227. But the problem with the P227 is there are so many good guns out there USP45, HK45, FNX45, Glock??, 2011. Not to mention, it has to compete with the P220 and 1911s.


As for the M11A1, you do realize that it's basically a P229-1 with no rails right? :lol::lol:
The early 9mm P229-1s had problems of their own. The most common one was FTExtract.
 
#16 ·
The 14-rounder debacle might not have killed the P227, but to think that it has no contribution to its demise is naive.

Fact - The P227, to many, was not not all it cracked up to be. Many already voiced that the 2 extra rounds were not worth the extra bulkiness of the gun. They prefer the P220 just fine. And, if they want 2 extra rounds, they can simply get the 10-rounder. If the P220 were not around, then I have no doubt that the P227 would be selling like hot cakes. But, the fact that the P220 is still going strong means that the P227 sale simply suffers.

Fact - Many many folks want the P227 only with the expectation that the extended mag works. They waited and waited, and when the 14-rounder came out with the TacOps, it was a disaster. So, all these potential P227 buyers never bought the gun. Even when SIG/Mec-Gar were supposed to have fixed the problem, they made no distinctions of what and when, so no one really knows. You buy a 14-rounder, you take a chance. The fact that the TacOps is no longer in the lineup tells you everything.
 
#17 ·
Tried selling my tacops a year ago to fund other projects. No interest.

When I try to sell a 9mm striker-fired pistol, it only takes a day or two.

Why? Perfect combination of the higher price point, 45 ACP not 9mm, not striker-fired, and less awareness of the P227 platform in general. My $.02 anyway.

Not upset about moving it since I love mine.
 
#24 ·
Yes, I was a little disappointed that the 14 rd mag did not work, but it wasn't a deal breaker. I may be a little bias, both my Sigs (227 &229) are SAS models and both are great weapons. I'm a .45 guy. My 227 is just a tad bit thicker than a 4 inch 1911 - for me a relatively easy carry. I rotate my carry depending on my day. I feel better carrying my 227 over any other gun I own.
 
#29 · (Edited)
I bought a nice used full sized, LNIB, a couple of years ago at a local gun store for $659.
No 14 round mags, they're 10s. No mag issues thru hundreds of rounds.
I swapped out the E2 grips for some Sig logo G10s.
It's a great shooting pistol. Feels like a 226, reliable and accurate.
My brother has the SAS, which I like even more.
In this area (central Texas) the new ones are still priced around $800.
 
#32 ·
I think the real market right now is in accessories. Guns are "soft" all over. Just go to some of your local gun shops and ask the guys behind the counter how business is? If they are honest they will say "slow". I'm surprised some are still open. I just bought some parts to upgrade a couple of my guns. A few years ago I would just have bought a new gun. Now I am happy with what I have. I think about selling one and I will go pick it up and look at it, and say to myself " I'll keep it". Not a good time to sell at all! Ask your self why did you buy it in the first place?
 
#39 ·
Don't worry. We have only until the November elections to wait for a spike in gun interest and prices. Gun shops live in a Gluuck inspired cloud of of plastic and nerf gun spring actions. The only demographic they care about is under 30, wears a 'muslimish' beard and keeps their pistole' pointed at their twig and berries, the whole time never knowing their plastic guns are only one molecule away from margarine. Find a local auction and put it up on the block with a set minimum. Many small town auctions have a flock of older preppers that seek out any firearm through this avenue as it leaves no paper trail(in Fl. at least). I see things go for full retail sometimes more.
 
#41 ·
All 8 of my 14 rounders worked as well, i bought a pair of consecutive Serial numbered P227 Tacops and they have both worked flawlessly for the last 2 years. 3000+ rounds through each gun with no issues on the 14 rounders. Must have just got lucky.
 
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#45 · (Edited)
I bought mine 4 years ago for home defense. I bought one 14 round mag, and it wasn't reliable. It did home defense duty with the 10 round mags. I later modified the spring, but haven't tested it yet.

The P227 was replaced in home defense a year ago with a FNX-45T and 15 round mags that work. I just added a FN-509T (9 mm) with 24 round mags that work.

After adding Short Return Trigger and an original (fat) trigger, I'll never get my money back. But I also found a like new P229 Scorpion for $700, a $1,750 Colt 1911 that jumped to $4,000 when the Marine Corps stopped Colt from selling them, and a "Dirty Harry" .44 Magnum for $800. I have no idea how much my P226 TACOPS is worth. I won't sell it anyway.

I'm getting on in years, and I have a lot of guns. When my time comes, I'll be glad to have enjoyed them, and will never even think about how much they cost me, Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug.

The P227 is still a great gun, and I won't badmouth it because of the 14 round mags or lower resale value.

Sorry about the length, just got carried away.
 
#48 · (Edited)
Ammo is plentiful and cheap and the market is flush with firearms. Sig in general, floods the market with too many variants of their models so resale will never be like it was 20 years ago. It’s not like the new guns are inferior but the market is saturated with a plethora of choices in every caliber.

Not selling my custom shop P227.


 
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