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Old 02-16-2019, 03:50 PM   #16
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Ok.

I learned the trick to inserting the locking insert.

Besides making sure that the different parts, including the slide stop lever, are aligned to not interfere with the insert slots, the trigger pivot pin has slots in it:



If you turn the slot in the end of the pin to just the right angle using then the slots in the insert will fall into place. I believe that angle is near between 10 and 11 oclock, but you need to look for the slots cut into the pin, they need to be visible and facing up. The insert seems to ride on that pin. When the insert falls into place, the slot in the end of the pivot pin will turn horizontal again and the insert will keep the pin from turning very far or falling out either side (I think that is what the slots are mainly for).

When removing the insert, the hammer has to be decocked or you can't remove the insert

That is what all the fiddling often accomplishes.

Just be careful to not push the pin thru - it is fairly easy to hold it in place so it doesn't come out of the holes until the insert is in place.

The video I watched hinted at this, but he didn't really come to the conclusion I did - he just said fiddle with it long enough and maybe turn that pin a little.

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Old 02-16-2019, 07:18 PM   #17
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I had a ton of trouble getting the insert back into my P226 when I was making it into a DA/SA gun from a DAO only one. I only took it out because the gun was about the second dirtiest gun I've ever bought, and just wanted to get all the black ooze out of it, and the area around the insert was loaded with it. After I finally got it back in, I took it out again and removed and replaced it several times without any problem! When I was cleaning my P220 DAK a few weeks ago, I took it out, and again, had no issues putting it back in. Kind of like a bowling video game I had years ago. Once I got a 300, anything less was a fluke. It was easy to have a perfect score, but it took me a long time to get the first one.
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Actually...

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If you turn the slot in the end of the pin to just the right angle using then the slots in the insert will fall into place. I believe that angle is near between 10 and 11 oclock, but you need to look for the slots cut into the pin, they need to be visible and facing up. The insert seems to ride on that pin. When the insert falls into place, the slot in the end of the pivot pin will turn horizontal again and the insert will keep the pin from turning very far or falling out either side (I think that is what the slots are mainly for).
The two slots along the side of the trigger pivot pin need to be facing downward and the slot in the left end of the pin needs to be horizontal in order to install the locking insert.

You are correct that trigger pivot pin is locked into the frame (side to side) by this engagement with the locking insert. It's a very simple design and very effective at retaining the trigger pivot pin in the frame without having to use a press fit pin or screw.
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I only took it out because the gun was about the second dirtiest gun I've ever bought, and just wanted to get all the black ooze out of it, and the area around the insert was loaded with it. After I finally got it back in, I took it out again and removed and replaced it several times without any problem! When I was cleaning my P220 DAK a few weeks ago, I took it out, and again, had no issues putting it back in. Kind of like a bowling video game I had years ago. Once I got a 300, anything less was a fluke. It was easy to have a perfect score, but it took me a long time to get the first one.
I agree with you on both counts.

The top/rear surface of the locking insert gets a lot of GSR buildup that can be tough to removed. I routinely remove the locking insert to thoroughly clean it and the frame area around it; makes it much easier.

Once you figure out how everything needs to be positioned for reassembly, you will wonder why it was so difficult at first.
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