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Old 10-14-2010, 07:10 AM   #16
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Man I gotta quit looking at guns I want one of em now. My fridge died yesterday and I gotta spend all my money on that. Hrm SIG or fridge


Thats why they call it eating out.
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Old 10-17-2010, 02:57 PM   #17
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I'm a P250 owner and I must say there is an adjustment period with this gun, at least for me. I started out shooting low and had little confidence with the gun. I found out that with combat sights you have to put the pipper where you want the bullet to go, and it fixed that problem. Now I just have to get use to the DA. This is a pull, point and shoot gun and should work out very well for personal protection. My friend has 5 SIGs and i have shot them all. I like the P226 the best but it is heavy and big for a carry weapon, and it cost twice as much as my P250. I still want a P226 but it will be used as a shooter and not personal protection.



Also, there is no safety on this weapon. The trigger pull is long but very smooth. There is suppose to be a blocking device that prevents the weapon from firing if dropped. Now I just have to decide if I want to carry it with a round in the chamber. This gun feels very good in my hands and I have short fingers. My previous S&W large frame 10mm was more than I could hold on to.



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It can be modified to DA/SA, no? I mean, it's a SIG...
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SIG Pro Shop can convert SAO to DA/SA for a fee.
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winter's around the corner, lol. that's what we use the back porch for...
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I know I am 2 months late but I will chime in on the 250's.

I own the subcompact 9mm and have shot alot of sig's from 226's to 239's. The 250sc shoots like a sig. The DAO trigger is smooth and with very little practice good groups will be achieved.Double and triple taps can be done accurately with practice.

I have 400 rounds through mine in less than 2 weeks and not one problem occurred. Feeds everything from winchester,UMC and +p loads.



If the 250's had problems, SIG fixed them. My SC is a inexpensive SIG gem!!!
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I agree. I've had my p250 for a little over a year. It is a subcompact 9mm. I have recently aquired a 45acp x-change kit so I am enjoying the modularity concept. It's pretty nifty. I have had no problems with it at all.
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I'm not aware that there is a conversion from DAO to SAO for the P250.



There have been a lot of rumors going around about the P250, here's a quote from Massad Ayoob from an article he did recently in Guns Magazine, January 2011 edition, page 43, under heading “Reliability”:



"“The P250 recently passed a torture test by a large West Coast agency with flying colors, and insiders there tell me it will soon be approved for their personnel (they’re just waiting to test a striker-fired version of the P250 now in development). I’ve tested three of the four calibers, but not the .357 SIG. The Federal Air Marshals have adopted the .357 version of the P250, and FAM has very high reliability testing standards. The several P250s I’ve seen in the hands of my students in classes and fellow shooters at

matches have all worked fine.”



The article is actually an article on the 2Sum. You can read the entire article online.



Sig deserves some of the negative press I suppose, it appears they introduced the gun for use and evaluation before all the bugs had been worked out. But then so have other manufacturers, Glock's gen 4 G22 just to name one of many.



The Federal Air Marshalls actually had the P250 forced on them (they were carrying the P229 DAK IIRC), by admin. Hence the P250 had a mark against it before a shot was fired. The FAMs also had some reliablity issues that Sig addressed promptly. I think it was too late by then, the P250 now had two strikes against it. The third strike was the DAO trigger. While the trigger is light, 6 lbs, and smooth as butter, it is a bit longer than DAKs. It it also longer than the DA of a DA/SA tigger, but it is also about half the pull weight.



Then, if that weren't enough, Sig submitted the P250 to the BATFE for testing - I believe again before all the bugs had been identified. And, the bugs showed up un the BATFE trials. Some were mechanical issues and some were short-stroking the trigger and while that's really a shooter issue, it nonetheless happens, but would likely be eliminated by training.



People that can shoot DAO guns, esp. revolvers like the P250 and don't have trigger issues. People that are not used to a DAO trigger don't shoot it well initially and give up and blame the gun as the problem. One poster (another forum) claimed 'you' meaning anyone couldn't hit anything past 7 yards with a P250, so I made this video to prove that isn't true and the problem is not the gun:






I had the known extraction problem with my P250 9mm compact. I called Sig, they immediately sent me a UPS overnight shipping label. I shipped the gun (no cost to me), they replaced the extractor (the problem I was having), the trigger bar, the safety lever and the hammer. They shipped it back to my doorstep in 10 days from the time I shipped it, all free to me. The gun is now flawless in operation.



P250s seem to be selling like hot cakes due to recent price reductions like we see at Buds. Then these lowered prices crank up the rumor mills again that Sig is lowereing prices on the P250 to dump them on the market to close out the P250. There's a lot more to it than that. There are a number of different models of P250s. Predominately the older style and the newer style. The older style with black phosphate finishes and plain black sights are at the lower end of the price spectrum. The newer models with stainless steel, Nitron finish, with SigLite night sights are at the upper end of the price spectrum.



Plus, it's really interesting that the rumor mills crank out the P250 rumors because of lowered prices, and no one says a thing about S&W reducing the price on M&Ps by $100, and that Glock reduce their prices to about $450.



From what I read, more and more P250 owners are finding their P250s to be reliable. This should be expected as Sig puts fixes into the current manufacturing. Plus, the guns that got out with 'bugs' in them are being promptly repaired for free and Sig pays for shipping both ways. So while Sig may have blundered the introduction of the P250, they are certainly working hard to make things right.
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