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P226R .40 OR M&P Shield .45

1K views 15 replies 12 participants last post by  Chucky1953 
#1 ·
I know, I know...this IS a Sig forum, lol. I LOVE my .40 P320 Carry size.

Anyway, back to the question at hand. For DEDICATED home defense and carry around the property ONLY (with occasional range trips)...what would you get? The Sig P226R .40 or the little Smith and Wesson .45? Why?

Thanks guys and ladies!! I love this site!!
 
#2 ·
I think a relevant question is, "How much are you actually going to be carrying it around the property and for what sort of duration?"

I'd lean towards the Shield45 for carry and the P22640 for home defense. You posed a question, though, where you'd be using the same pistol for both situations.

Depending on what I was doing around my property it might get mighty old having that P226 on my side.
 
#3 ·
Ok, I can pick up locally...the P226, A Shield .40 or a Shield .45. ANY of which would just be basically a new toy. Nearly the same price for any of them.

I absolutely feel you re: carry capability. I feel any of them would work for home defense.

So, is it worth jumping on the P226R just because the price is nice, or should I stick to business and choose the .40 or .45 Shield?

Angry Hippo, is that a better question. I'm old...go easy on me, please, lol.
 
#4 ·
Not trying to beat you up, just wanted to make sure we're giving you the best advice we can. (and rough you up a bit ;) )

If you want a new toy... I'm really happy with my CPO P226. Pleased enough to angrily ask myself, "Why didn't I buy one of these 15 years ago?" (Of course the answer was that they were over $1000 back then)

The shields are nice and I've been temped by that .45 model a few times. It's a very practical carry choice. Very light. If I was going to be digging ditches, working on vehicles or otherwise doing dirty work regularly around the property I'd lean hard on that shield.

The P226R has double the capacity, a more standardized accessory attachment rail, shoots like a dream. You could easily turn it into a blunt melee weapon in a pinch with it's heft. It's clearly a superior bedside gun in my eyes.

Shield does have a manual safety available as an option. Vast majority of p226's won't.
 
#5 ·
I carry 357s around my property in the mountains. I don’t know if your in a forest or in surburia. I load it with 2 rounds of snake shot and four .357 hollow points.
If you are really into a 45, I would suggest a Sig P220, I enjoy mine.
 
#6 ·
Alright, I'm now awaiting a response on the Shield .45. What the hell...not as far down the rabbit hole. I'll save the $100 difference wanted for the Sig if I can.

Either way just sounds like fun, fun, fun to me, lol.

Thanks kids!
 
#7 ·
Well since it seems you use a P320 Carry for "carry" purposes, the question should be, should I maintain the same caliber... or manual of arms.

I have several different calibers, but the majority are of the same "Manual of Arms", as in DA/SA Sig Sauer models from a P220 .45, to a P239 .40, with 9mm/.357 Sig/.40 S&W versions of P226 and P229s, and both older P6, and newer P225A1 9mm pistols.

In some cases, as in the recent past, a diversity of calibers, may allow acquisition of needed ammo when the popular ones are "gone"! By the same token, not having to "remember" which pistol you are using, to realize your next "step" to take, may be more comforting.

Only "YOU" can determine what you should get!
 
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Good luck with the decision and purchase. If it were me and it involved frequent, long-duration carry on my property it would be the Shield 45. I find it comfortable to carry and it is quite accurate. The downside is limited capacity. If it was for occasional carry and home defense was the primary purpose, I would go for the P226. First, make sure you are comfortable with a SA/DA setup and NEVER forget to de-cock before reholstering!
 
#11 ·
Two quite different guns.

A lightweight smaller striker fired single stack limited capacity gun in .45 ACP

vs.

A full sized heavier gun in .40 ACP with up to 15 rounds of capacity

factors:

Recoil - the SIG will be much more controllable. I have a 227 in .45 ACP and several SIGs in .40, ranging from a 224 to a 2340 to a 229 to a 226. All of them are lighter recoil than the 227 (the latter also has a TLR-8 light/laser on it which adds to the front weight).

The worst for .40 recoil is the 224 with its short barrel and short grips and lighter weight. It is the closest to the .45 ACP 227 in recoil.

The 226 in .40 shooting 180 gr @1k fps, feels like it has more recoil than 9mm with 115 gr, but not by much. With the 227 and 230gr @ 900fps I am definitely slower to get back on target and the recoil is noticeably more. I have shot .45 ACP in a small lightweight Star PD I used to own, and it was even more recoil and muzzle flip.

Size/weight - for concealed carry the Shield will be much better - the 226 is a full sized gun with heft. I like my Mk25 and my two tone 226 (the latter in .40), but they are 'duty' guns IMO, not something for concealed carry. It depends on how far and how long you intend to carry the pistol around. I have a 329PD in .44 mag that I hardly notice when I carry it around in the woods - but when I shoot it, even with 165 gr SD loads, it is not fun to shoot - with big heavy bear loads (300gr @1200fps) it is a downright pain to shoot and has actually drawn blood.

If you have never shot a lightweight small gun in .45 ACP, I recommend you try one first before deciding.

Striker fired vs. DA/SA - I have shot/owned Glocks, Kahrs and Walther striker fired guns. I don't like the trigger on any of them. I much prefer the DA/SA of the classic SIGs, even that of my 2022 and 2340 (although the latter are my least favorite SIGs - in part because of the balance and recoil impulse of the polymer frame, in part because of the trigger isn't as nice).
 
#14 · (Edited)
IMHO anything larger than 9mm in a Tupperware gun is too much.
Sensitivity to recoil is a subjective thing but in this particular case with a Shield .45 I agree with you. I used to own one, I no longer do. Just my opinion but if you're on the hunt for something you'll actually look forward to and enjoying shooting the Shield .45 is not it. I prefer to be proficient with and regularly shoot anything that might be used for defensive purposes. I enjoy shooting .45 almost as much as other calibers but that little S&W is not something I particularly cared for.
 
#15 · (Edited)
I carry the shield .45 around home and as a cc. I also have the shield .40 which I bought a .357 barrel for and carry it also. For me its kinda a toss up use the .45 in a 230gr and have a “slow” mover or use the .357 with a 147gr and have a fast mover? While I really like the 45 the 357 always puts a smile on my face when I shoot it. As for the 226, carrying around home working or out and about, it is kinda big and heavy. However I do keep one as a house gun.

Sooooooo...... your choice.

Edit: I did put Talon gip tape on the 45. For me the grips were a little to slick for the recoil. The skateboard tape grip keeps it firmly in hand and recoil manageable.
 
#16 ·
I have a .45 Shield and I'm recoil sensitive due to an issue with my shooting hand (66 years old). Surprisingly, although not something you can shoot all day with, it's manageable. I have Tru Glo TFX Pro's on mine. If you're in a very rural area with big critters, something to consider. And if you have to be conscious of "printing" vs. a bigger gun.

I also have a Shield 9 PC that shoots pretty good. I have to give credit to the Shield Family, as they started a revolution with that size IMHO.

Like someone else said, the 220 is an option but much bigger.

I live in a communist blue state so 10 rounds only here...…………….

Maybe you can find someone in your area in the various firearms forums that would let you shoot it, or a range rental.

Again, you won't want to shoot it all day, but...…………….
 
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