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What can you guys/gals tell me about DAK triggers...

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#1 ·
...as on a .40 P226 DAK?

I'm buying one tomorrow for a decent price and really know nothing about this DAK trigger system.

What can you share with me, good, bad or ugly? Is it modifiable?

Am I making a big mistake?
 
#2 · (Edited)
If you like revolvers you'll like the DAK system.

The full pull is long and super-smooth, and somewhere between the weight of a DA pull and an SA pull.

There's an intermediate reset, but it's mostly there as a failsafe against short-stroking rather than a deliberate reset, although lots of folks use it that way.

Another nice feature is that it has double-strike capability, unlike strikers.

DAK isn't everyone's cup of tea, but go ahead and give it a try.
 
#22 · (Edited)
Best factory SIG trigger that's not SAO... once you practice a LOT and put a couple thousand rounds through it to smooth it out. Fortunately those two things kinda go hand in hand. I love my 2 P229 DAK pistols but they definitely have a learning curve if you have never shot one. The DAK is, IMO, the best CCW defense trigger on the market along with the HK LEM trigger. A shame they don't make the DAK anymore.



Because SIG is ADD with their models and they discontinue anything that doesn't sell a bajillion units? The P320 killed the DAK, not because it's a bad system. They still produce it for agency contracts if the order is large enough and they still (last I checked) keep parts on hand for service. That being said, HK did it better with the LEM.
 
#5 ·
Double Action Kellerman. It was meant for LEOs. Lots of PDs adopted it. It features an intermediate reset which provides the means to fire the pistol in the event the user short strokes the trigger during a critical incident. The trigger pull for the system is 6.5 lbs. in full DAO (Double Action Only) and increases to 8 lbs. if the trigger is pulled from the intermediate short reset position.

Are you going to hate it? Unlikely. Like anything else with pistols you adapt and with practice become proficient. I have had a couple of them and experienced no urge to convert.

Not ideal if your thing is target shooting. Self Defense? No problem.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Parts needed (according to Top Gun):

  • Decocking Lever
  • Decocking Lever Spring
  • Decocking Lever Bearing
  • Hammer
  • Hammer Strut Pin (except P239 which is integral)
  • Hammer Reset Spring
  • Hammer Strut
  • Mainspring
  • Safety Lever
  • Sear
  • Sear Spring
  • Trigger Bar
  • DA/SA Grips with Decocking Lever cutout
You might want to drop a dime to the Sig Custom shop, give them the s/n and just verify your frame is compatible before buying the parts. Or sending it in. I'd also double check this parts list with them. Measure twice cut once as they say.
 
#14 ·
Others here who own one will have more accurate info. I'll just say that my one and only experience with a DAK pistol was a P229 that I tried in our Classic Series armorer's course. I absolutely hated it, and will never own one. Some folks like them just fine. But there is a good reason that DAK police trade ins consistently sell for far less than the exact same gun in DA/SA. I'd say that more people don't like it, than do.
 
#15 ·
There is no frame issue converting from DAK to DA/SA. Some frames cannot be converted from DA/SA to DAK because they don't have sufficient clearance for the larger DAK trigger bar and lower trigger bar travel requirement.

Depending on which type of grips the pistol has, there may not be the cutout needed to accomodate the DA/SA decocking lever. But that can be resolved with a simple grip replacement.
 
#17 ·
Bought one for a really good price, that had enough room to make conversion cost a wash. Shot it a couple times. Didn’t care for the transition in muscle memory switching from an identical framed DA/SA Back and forth to the DAK. Was going to convert it. Buddy who is a Total revolver guy, shot it, and loved it. Go figure. Traded him for a real nice Model 19 snub. Win/Win
 
#25 ·
Ok, got the pistol in question, apparently made in 2008, looks well used, a bit holster worn, but the bore looks perfect and it seems to function flawlessly.

I could definitely use the DAK setup for an in house gun. Not that bad at all, and you have to REALLY mean to shoot it in order to cause any damage.

NOT very smooth either...maybe a sign that not somany thousands of rounds have been through this one, lol.

Will start another thread re: my purchase.

Thanks again to all of you for the opinions and advice!!!
 
#26 · (Edited)
I will tell you this, my agency recently switched to the P320 after carrying the P229 DAK for around 15 years. When I started, my issued P229 DAK was an older reissue, nearly 10 years old when i received it. It had been carried by a guy who left the agency but was not retiring and therefore was not eligible to purchase his pistol. Most of my classmates got brand-new, never-issued pistols and they were so happy to get pistols that nobody else had shot or carried... until they compared the trigger pulls. Then they kinda wanted one of the older pistols. My wife has the same pistol (P229 DAK .357) but it is also much newer than mine and she said the same thing when comparing them.
 
#28 ·
I have my old LEO DAK 40 226. I called Sig and the total to convert it to DA/SA is around $250 including shipping both ways. I decided to pick up a new DA/SA frame on GB for around $300 instead of converting it. Only an extra $50 dollars to get a whole new frame. I decided to keep my original frame as is so the original pistol is intact if I decide to sell it some day. Plus now I have an excuse to buy another slide assembly because what good is a frame laying around with out an upper? :lol:
 
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#30 ·
I used to compete in NRA PPC with a revolver. I shot in the High Masters Class at my first match and shot possible scores in competition so I know how to use a revolver. I hated the DAK trigger even though it sort of mimicked a revolver. Shooting my other DA/SA Sigs in DA mode for the first shot was a lot easier than using the DAK trigger. The only thing I despise more is a Glock with a 5 pound or higher trigger.
 
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