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Old 05-21-2020, 06:27 AM   #1
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220 grip replacement question

I just got a police trade in 220. the grip on the right side is pretty scratched up and I want to put new grips on it. I need help choosing between the regular 2pc and the E2 grip. I like E2 on my 229, but this is a thinner grip.

The E2 grip comes with some other parts. Do these parts need changed to use the E2 grip?

unrelated observation. We know that many/most cops are not gun people. The cop that had this gun was not big on cleaning it. It was loaded with carbon and had cat hair in the hammer and trigger areas.
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Old 05-21-2020, 07:00 AM   #2
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Sig makes a Polymer Slim Fit Grip Set for the P220. It is two pieces not like the E2s
I have as et in case I want to switch out later
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I just got a police trade in 220. the grip on the right side is pretty scratched up and I want to put new grips on it. I need help choosing between the regular 2pc and the E2 grip. I like E2 on my 229, but this is a thinner grip.

The E2 grip comes with some other parts. Do these parts need changed to use the E2 grip?

unrelated observation. We know that many/most cops are not gun people. The cop that had this gun was not big on cleaning it. It was loaded with carbon and had cat hair in the hammer and trigger areas.
Chances are it will need the "kit", to use E2 grips, unless a fairly recent manufacture. It needs the Long Strut, with Short Nylon Mainspring Seat, to take the E2 grip as a minimum. Photos always help, as I'm assuming these are, the later 2 piece grips, and not the checkered models of German manufacture, including the pinned Mainspring assembly.
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Last night I was going to take and post photos as mentioned above. But didn't feel well so laid down. Since it was on my mind I did some youtube searching and dug through some videos. the first several were typical youtube clutter. Then I found a dude that goes by Ferrari Steve (25% change I remembered the wrong first name). I don't know if the dude actually has a Ferrari, but he does a great job on educational videos. So I will order the E2 kit and put in the parts. My 220 has the long plastic spring boot so I'm good on the spring. I also watched his video on short trigger reset, depending on price I may do that too, but I don't actually plan to shoot this gun much. So it would be more to do the work than to improve the shooting experience.

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Last night I was going to take and post photos as mentioned above. But didn't feel well so laid down. Since it was on my mind I did some youtube searching and dug through some videos. the first several were typical youtube clutter. Then I found a dude that goes by Ferrari Steve (25% change I remembered the wrong first name). I don't know if the dude actually has a Ferrari, but he does a great job on educational videos. So I will order the E2 kit and put in the parts. My 220 has the long plastic spring boot so I'm good on the spring. I also watched his video on short trigger reset, depending on price I may do that too, but I don't actually plan to shoot this gun much. So it would be more to do the work than to improve the shooting experience.

Thanks to everyone for the help.
Since you are going with the E2 kit, then this is all you will need for the SRT, as the E2 kit has the updated Decocking Lever... https://osagecountyguns.com/sig-p226...parts-kit.html The kit isn't that much, and while you are going through the effort with the Mainspring assembly, go the extra few "yards"...
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Last night I was going to take and post photos as mentioned above. But didn't feel well so laid down. Since it was on my mind I did some youtube searching and dug through some videos. the first several were typical youtube clutter. Then I found a dude that goes by Ferrari Steve (25% change I remembered the wrong first name). I don't know if the dude actually has a Ferrari, but he does a great job on educational videos. So I will order the E2 kit and put in the parts. My 220 has the long plastic spring boot so I'm good on the spring. I also watched his video on short trigger reset, depending on price I may do that too, but I don't actually plan to shoot this gun much. So it would be more to do the work than to improve the shooting experience.

Thanks to everyone for the help.
I put SRT’s in all my Sigs if given the opportunity. I have found Osage County Guns has the best price - about $44/set.
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Since you are going with the E2 kit, then this is all you will need for the SRT, as the E2 kit has the updated Decocking Lever... https://osagecountyguns.com/sig-p226...parts-kit.html The kit isn't that much, and while you are going through the effort with the Mainspring assembly, go the extra few "yards"...
?How is the DECOCKING LEVER “upgraded”. It looks a whole lot like the old one. I recollect putting in a new DL in my old 229 a while back, as well as the new style trigger bar spring.
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?How is the DECOCKING LEVER “upgraded”. It looks a whole lot like the old one. I recollect putting in a new DL in my old 229 a while back, as well as the new style trigger bar spring.
The decocking lever is only upgraded on the 220 SRT kit. It has a slightly different profile than the original factory decocker lever. I bought a handful of 220 SRT kits a couple years ago when they were priced at $25. They were cheaper than the kits without the new lever. I think I bought them from Optics Planet. I just kept adding to the count, until it stopped me. Might have been 7-8 of them
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?How is the DECOCKING LEVER “upgraded”. It looks a whole lot like the old one. I recollect putting in a new DL in my old 229 a while back, as well as the new style trigger bar spring.
In general, P220s older than around 10 years old, "likely" will need the "newer" style (10 years old), Decocking Lever for either the E2 grips, or the SRT. That's one reason why both the E2 "Kit", and SRT "kit" for the P220 include them, only because the person may be installing them on a older model. Sig probably figured it was easier than fielding so many complaints, when a Decocking Lever wouldn't function correctly... It's the point in rotation of the lever the decocking takes place, likely more than clearance of the grips. I cannot speculate on the P229 though...
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In general, P220s older than around 10 years old, "likely" will need the "newer" style (10 years old), Decocking Lever for either the E2 grips, or the SRT. That's one reason why both the E2 "Kit", and SRT "kit" for the P220 include them, only because the person may be installing them on a older model. Sig probably figured it was easier than fielding so many complaints, when a Decocking Lever wouldn't function correctly... It's the point in rotation of the lever the decocking takes place, likely more than clearance of the grips. I cannot speculate on the P229 though...
In the video I watched, the dude said the hump at the top of the decock piece on the newer lever is to contact the bottom of the slide to prevent the level from contacting the outside of the slide. (or something like that). So apparently a couple details on the upgrade?

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cckw, the Decocking Lever only "touches" the Hammer, and not even close to the slide. Never the less, compare your current lever to the one with the E2 grip kit. As you can hopefully see by my example, the difference is noticeable, so you may, or may not have to swap it out. In my example above, the "OEM" was a 1990 vintage German model P220.
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Ok. Month or so ago, I installed an P220 SRT kit in a unmodified West German P220. Did this due to a conversation with Willard, concerning SRT compatibility with older spur hammered/ non hammer reset spring P220s. Swapped it out on a Sunday morning, ran a few mags through it. Perfect. This was a lightly used P220, bought new by me.

This morning, I took it back apart. I hung both Decocking levers on a drill bit that matched the hole diameter, and used a block of steel, to line up the levers in the same orientation to each other. The tab on the levers, that pushes the seer up and catches the hammer, is 3/16" higher on the newer lever. That higher tab engages the seer sooner when depressing the lever, thus allowing the decock before the lever runs out of travel room.

I tried both old and new levers with both standard and SRT seers. Every combo functioned, though the newer/higher lever tab WAS much easier to manipulate. I dont think the new Decocking lever being included with the SRT kit has any more importance, than just giving a better function.

The newer lever does ride a little higher, towards the slide, and the lines are not quite level with the lines on the TDL or Slide Lock. Doesnt bother me, just a little canted. I cant see any reason why this is so. The hump/nub on the newer Decocking lever is under the Slide Lock lever. If you were to push it up, it would contact the bottom of the Slide Lock, and prevent the Decocking lever from touching the slide. This newer lever might be something Sig did to address an issue with P220s that have a lot of wear. Mine are all lightly used, if at all, so I cant speak to that.

The P220 is keeping the SRT, and will probably get to see more Daylight soon.
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There is only 1 trigger bar spring for the P220 right? There isn’t any new style TBS like for the P229?
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There is only 1 trigger bar spring for the P220 right? There isn’t any new style TBS like for the P229?
My first Sig was an old 229. When I converted it to SRT and E2 grips (from the ancient “bed post ones”), one of the changes I had to do was a new trigger bar spring. From that, I would presume old 220’s also had old vs new springs. I believe Terminal Signess has an old 220 and in it an old spring. So far it’s always worked but a friend who was in DevGru said they had issues with the old ones breaking. You learned when that happened to turn the gun upside down to make it shoot until you had the opportunity to change the spring.
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