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|06-27-2020, 06:11 PM||#1|
Retired Military Handguns
When the LEO's buy new firearms, they generally get traded in to what ever business unit that they purchased them from that is an approved supplier of that brand they bought. Then those trade ins become available to the public to purchase as used trade ins.
What about when the government, like the US Air Force buys new Sig's, what happens with the old firearms?
My experience with the military and obsolete manufacturing tooling is they want it destroyed when they no longer want it.
What happens to the old firearms of a government agency?
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|06-27-2020, 06:30 PM||#4|
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Here is the info from Sigs page on the m17s.
|06-27-2020, 06:50 PM||#6|
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I think the Beretta's are starting to show up. Buds in Sevierville this week put 50 in their used case all with M9 on the tags. They are in fair shape to say the least.
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|06-27-2020, 07:01 PM||#7|
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When the Coast Guard switched from the Beretta M9 in 2006 to the Sig P229 DAK, we sent all of our Berettas to the DoD. The reason they were given to DoD is because they were still being used in all the other branches, so they figured DoD could use them for parts or even replace some of their worn out guns with some of ours that had a decent amount of life left in them.
|06-27-2020, 08:53 PM||#8|
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I have a Black Army Colt M1911 that was manufactured October 11, 1918 and shipped from the factory on October 15, 1918 to Bush Terminal, Brooklyn, NY. No record from there until I bought it at a regular live auction of July 4, 2011.
I acquired a Remington Rand M1911A1, in like new condition, at a live auction on December 18, 2018. It was in the last batch produced and delivered to the U. S. Government in July 1945. I have no record of its history.
After over two years of applying and waiting I acquired a Colt M1911A1 in 95% condition from the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP). After Congressional approval this batch of pistols was transferred from the U.S. Army to the CMP for public sale. The cream of the crop was auctioned and mine came from my high bid vs. the sale of the arsenal rebuilds and lesser condition pistols.
I am fortunate to have these three former U.S. Military pistols especially at the condition they are in. Below are pictures.
The M1911A1 was the service pistol during my military days, and I carried numerous different ones at various assignments. I did carry a Remington Rand while in Nam sometimes with and sometimes without a M-16.
|06-27-2020, 09:30 PM||#9|
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|06-28-2020, 05:37 AM||#10|
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I think it depends on the military unit and the type of firearm. I know for fact that the Navy SEALs and Army Special Forces never allow a trade-in for their used firearms. They're typically destroyed at the end of their service life or parts are cannibalized for spares.
|06-28-2020, 04:06 PM||#11|
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If the Berettas show up for sale, beware. My future son-in-law is in the Air Force and when he was home on leave we were shooting and discussing firearms. I mentioned I would like to get one of the Berettas that are being replaced. He said all the ones they have on his base were worn out POS. I'm not saying there's not some good ones out there, but check them carefully before buying.
|06-28-2020, 04:26 PM||#12|
As I mentioned, some of the plants that supported had specialty made press tooling for government projects. When the projects were over, they wanted the tooling destroyed.
A friend who worked at General Electric in Evendale Ohio till he retired. He told me stories of when a project was over for manufacturing a number of jet motors for the military. They would send trucks to GE to collect tools, fixtures, etc. that they purchased through GE for the project, in the neighborhood of millions of dollars worth of items. Then they were taken to be destroyed. Some items brand new.
|06-28-2020, 04:42 PM||#13|
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I know a person on another forum who has some rare M1's from Fulton armory, where he worked for a couple to three decades.
Tooling does get destroyed, but there are many parts ready to service weapons.
Besides some select fires, Military stuff has some cool factors to it, ie being military and used in battle potentially.
Police Dept stuff is hit or miss.. I have seen some that looked like they were never taken care of.
|06-28-2020, 05:12 PM||#14|
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If you get wind of available M9s retired from the Marine Corps steer clear. I wouldn't touch my services retired M9s with a ten foot pole. They either already have cracked locking blocks or they will soon. Can't say for the other services but plan to at least replace the locking block right away. Now the Beretta that my wife's grandfather kept when he retired as a NC state trooper, that I'd actually like to have. Still has all the bluing too and looked it like it hardly been fired.
|06-28-2020, 07:43 PM||#15|
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Retired Military Handguns...
I didn't know that retired military got handguns. I'm going to write my congressman to complain because when I retired from the Navy, I didn't get a handgun.
Do we get to chose what handgun we are awarded or is it luck of the draw, or one size fits all?
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