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Old 07-04-2020, 04:58 AM   #31
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I believe it to be foolish. But hey people, do as you wish. Working in a LGS the last few years. From what I've seen. Roughly 70 to 80% (in my area at least) carry without a chambered round.
Seriously?? I’m shocked by that percentage! Huh, I knew carrying without one chambered was a thing but had no idea you see that many that don’t. Huh. Interesting
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Old 07-04-2020, 05:10 AM   #32
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Well, thatís what they do on TV. I mean how else will you get that mechanical gun racking sound that makes the bad guy soil his pants.
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Some of the logic in this thread begs the obvious question as to why anyone would holster a weapon anyway.

If you’re going to argue the position that one lacks the time to chamber a round, how do you know that you will have the time to even draw the weapon - chambered or not?

Each of us is free to latch onto our own speculation as to what will occur and prepare accordingly. Meanwhile, we each are far more likely to die by a fall or disease.
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Old 07-04-2020, 09:27 AM   #34
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I don't understand why anyone would carry a handgun for self defense and not have a round in the chamber. As it was previously posted if safety is a concern carry a firearm that has a manual safety.
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Old 07-04-2020, 09:30 AM   #35
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I always have a round in the chamber Ö. all FIVE of them...
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Old 07-04-2020, 10:19 AM   #36
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Part of the reason I chose a Sig with a de-cocker is so I can carry with one in the chamber. I figure that initial double action pull is a pretty good safety and much better than to have to rack the slide when it is go time. I did go condition 3 when I first got it but now it’s in +1 mode for the most part.
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Old 07-04-2020, 10:42 AM   #37
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If he is ever confronted he'll have to ask the assailant to give him a minute to rack in a round and hope the assailant dies laughing.
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Old 07-04-2020, 10:56 AM   #38
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My solution to this "dilemma" is to carry an HK P7.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:04 AM   #39
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It been mentioned "that's the way the military trains" as well as that how the Israelis do it. There's one BIG difference, as well as some exceptions. For most military a hand gun is a back up weapon. I believe most MP's carry with a round in the chamber. (if someone can confirm, or knows otherwise I'll update this post).

A vast majority of US law enforcement agencies, Federal, State and Local carry with a round in the chamber.


People who aren't comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber make me nervous.
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:35 AM   #40
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I wonder if your neighbor can draw, rack the slide, take aim and deploy accurate fire within 1.5 seconds. If not he is vulnerable to attackers well beyond the typical 7-yard distance at which many of us train. At 7 yards, even if we are skilled enough to get shots on target, the odds are good that a determined attacker may still be able to bury a knife into our chest.
I would recommend that he watch this vid:

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I’ll just repeat what my CCW class trainer told me years ago. If you don’t have one in the chamber, you’ll have three holes in you before you’re ready to shoot.

You can sometimes get away with an empty chamber if you’re in a situation where you have some warning something is going down. You’re a bystander in a gas station robbery or whatever. But in most situations where YOU are the target (the #1 reason most people carry — self defense), what’ll end up happening is you have to keep it holstered and pretend you don’t have it because drawing it at that moment will likely get you dead.
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I wonder if your neighbor can draw, rack the slide, take aim and deploy accurate fire within 1.5 seconds. If not he is vulnerable to attackers well beyond the typical 7-yard distance at which many of us train. At 7 yards, even if we are skilled enough to get shots on target, the odds are good that a determined attacker may still be able to bury a knife into our chest.
I would recommend that he watch this vid:

Danny Crowe would be proud to hear that the 21’ rule has been mentioned. 🙂

May he and Chelsea rest in peace
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Old 07-04-2020, 01:41 PM   #43
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It is all about an individuals risk profile and their priorities. IMO stupid to say a person who does such should not carry at all or rocks are just as good because a pistol on the hip with a loaded magazine is still an excellent self defense tool. The individual understands the risks and is willing to accept that it can take a quarter second longer to chamber a round versus having a round in the chamber but feels the risk is worth doing for his/her own reasons.

As always it is best to avoid high risk areas and times whenever possible and always have situational awareness on high alert.
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It's what the Israelis do, but what do they know.
I'd like to know what LOCAL CONDITIONS dictate that protocol.
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