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Old 09-12-2020, 02:13 AM   #1
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P226 frames

Just a quick question for you guys. I was at the indoor range this week with my P226 40sw tacops. I mentioned my gun has 21,000rds through it to a guy next to me who says,,, you're lucky!! He said the 9mm 226 series cracks frames pretty regular at 20,000rds so the fourty should be even worse. Is he crazy or is there anything to this. My frame is aluminum!! The gun is flawless and the best handgun I've ever had!!! Thanks in advance..
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Old 09-12-2020, 02:34 AM   #2
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I can't imagine that being in any way normal. That would easily be a cracked frame every other year for say a sports shooter.
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He's probably reminiscing on the "Mud Rail" version developed for the Military Trials in the later '80s.

There was a habit of the rails cracking, the reason it was soon discontinued... and Sig "skeptical"/"cautious" about caliber converting older P226s by owners!

Here's a few photos of what they looked like...
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Thanks Willard, was that the time period when Beretta had frame cracking issues also with their 92??
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a guy next to me who says,,, you're lucky!! He said the 9mm 226 series cracks frames pretty regular at 20,000rds
Does he work at the LGS, also?
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Somewhat akin to the redneck saying to the 911 owner, “I hear them Porsh’as explode if ya drive ‘em too fast on the innerstate.”

You should have responded with, “Awesome; that’s great to know. That’ll give me a great excuse to buy a new gun then.”

Enjoy your 226!
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Thanks Willard, was that the time period when Beretta had frame cracking issues also with their 92??
The "Beretta" was about the same time frame, after it was accepted by the US Military, and it was the "Slide". not the rails IIRC, that suffered damage from initially reported NATO spec ammo. I personally believe it was from some "Old Stock" Military procured ammunition from the old "SEAL" Vietnam era SMGs, which included some "hot" loadings. https://www.gao.gov/products/T-NSIAD-88-46 reveals there were a few initial reports of frame rail failures. The "slide" would "separate" at the breach, with the "aft" portion continuing to the rear, into the shooter's face, which caused a design change, for prevention, should the slide break!
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I bought a used west German P226 about a year ago. Serial Number U 137XXX. It is definitely a mud rail. I did t even know about mudrails then! I wanted a triple serial number German so I got it. Wish I had the box and original grips but I don’t. Feels and looks good and is is really good shape.
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The guy you were talking to must have been dumb.
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I'll pass this along to a friend who has a 1986-1987 era P226 - he has over 120,000 rounds through it. Yes, he's followed the maintenance interval on replacement springs, roll-pins, etc., but the frame and slide are original...he should get a good laugh!
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The "slide" would "separate" at the breach, with the "aft" portion continuing to the rear, into the shooter's face, which caused a design change, for prevention, should the slide break!
Hence the saying:

"You're not a SEAL until you've tasted Italian steal."
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Just a quick question for you guys. I was at the indoor range this week with my P226 40sw tacops. I mentioned my gun has 21,000rds through it to a guy next to me who says,,, you're lucky!! He said the 9mm 226 series cracks frames pretty regular at 20,000rds so the fourty should be even worse. Is he crazy or is there anything to this. My frame is aluminum!! The gun is flawless and the best handgun I've ever had!!! Thanks in advance..
Sounds like this guy is a gun expert by virtue of what he reads somewhere on the internet. These self made regurgitation experts are an authority on everything they do not know.
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Hence the saying:

"You're not a SEAL until you've tasted Italian steal."
Isn't that why those Wilson Combat 92G Brigadiers have that hump on both sides of the slide? I think it was around there where a lot of them were breaking, or cracking, or something. I don't remember.
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Back in the late '70s early 80's time frame I got some 9mm that was imported by Interarms. I suspect that it was surplus SMG ammo because it was quite hot.
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you're lucky!! He said the 9mm 226 series cracks frames pretty regular at 20,000r
Total BS. Instructors are the Academy have 226 and 229's with round counts into 6 figures. I've seen a 357 Sig barrel shot out at 60K plus rounds. A replacement barrel was taken from stock and it continued working to this day.
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