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Old 09-18-2012, 08:40 AM   #1
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226 Hand Position?

Morning shooters

I am back seeking more helpful Sig suggestions.

I have been shooting pistols since 1952 so have shot a LOT of different types of pistols.

I can't say I come anywhere near world class shooting but usually I can keep all the bullets in the 9/10 ring at 20 yards with maybe an occasional woops.

Now along comes my first Sig (ever) a nice new 226R with factory aluminum Hogue grips. Feels great in hand but shoots like a shotgun.

This thing is driving me up a wall as far as lateral grouping goes. Height wise real good but left & rights (mostly lefts) are down right awful. So I must be torquing the darn thing or haven't found the right hand placement yet.

I thought "a new gun" no problem after a couple of thousand rounds it will work out. Well it hasn't as of yet.

My hands are not huge but not small either, trigger finger is almost perfect to reach the trigger at a good relaxed position Right hand seems to be a good wrap around the grip (I'm a right hand shooter).

So it must be my left hand position causing me the issues but as of yet I haven't found the correct off hand position & thumb position. (that big bump in the L/H grip isn't helping either)

If I move my left (off hand) to be way forward with the off hand index finger on the front of the trigger guard my lateral scatter seems to about go away but I don't shoot any of my other guns that way so am reluctant to use a unique hand position on just this one gun.

(SO) here's my question, request, pleading----

What have you 226 owners been using for of hand placement?
Any recommendations on what to try to control my left right scatter? (BTW I'm not flinching as observed by my instructor friend & inert rounds slipped into my full magazines by my wife)

Have others had this issue on a new Sig 226 & if so how did you correct the problem?


Basically asking for suggestion & hints to get this Sig to shoot rock steady for me.

Thanks ___Mildot
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:28 AM   #2
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On a full-size autoloader, I recently went from my right (strong-hand) thumb locked down to parallel thumbs. I am finding I like it. Not sure if it will help your situation, but might be worth a try if you shoot the old "universal" grip (thumb locked down).
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Look at this video I made for you. This is a P226 .40 with E2 grips

Please note, my support hand is the left hand. My right thumb is always away from the slide lock. This has proven highly effective for me. I have big hands and arms. Your experience may differ.

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Cool. That's almost exactly the change I made.

I still find myself occasionally locking down my right thumb, 'cause I originally learned handgun shooting about 20 or 25 years ago from police range masters, and they were teaching a lot of guys transitioning over from revolvers.

There's nothing terribly wrong with locking down the strong-hand thumb; it works on practically anything ... full-sized semi, any revolver, right down to a little KelTec .380.

That said, I can say when I'm shooting a reasonable size semi, I do get better groups and more comfort (less fatigue) when using the grip shown in that vid.

Nice job.
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That's exactly how I changed my grip also, was the typical 1911 style with thumb high, but I kept hitting the slide lock. My groups on the Sig were much better also, after that change.

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Thanks guys for the input so far.

MGF-- I am having a default time visualizing what you are saying on the parallel thumbs. Can you elaborate a bit?

THE CONQUEROR-- Your video is helpful but unfortunately that is basically how I have been shooting the 226 & it doesn't seem to be working for me. I do have a bit of trouble rotating my offhand wrist that far so I have a bit of gap in my palms at the lower rear.

What I did do a short time ago was hold my Colt .45 like I usually do then have my wife gently push the barrel sideways & it moved my arms & all. I did the same with the Sig 226 & my arms stayed put but the gun rotated slightly in my wrists.

Keep the suggestions coming.
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Thanks guys for the input so far.

MGF-- I am having a default time visualizing what you are saying on the parallel thumbs. Can you elaborate a bit?

THE CONQUEROR-- Your video is helpful but unfortunately that is basically how I have been shooting the 226 & it doesn't seem to be working for me. I do have a bit of trouble rotating my offhand wrist that far so I have a bit of gap in my palms at the lower rear.

What I did do a short time ago was hold my Colt .45 like I usually do then have my wife gently push the barrel sideways & it moved my arms & all. I did the same with the Sig 226 & my arms stayed put but the gun rotated slightly in my wrists.

Keep the suggestions coming.
Poor wording on my part. By parallel thumbs I meant what the vid illustrates much better than I described. One thumb atop the other, both below the slide and away from the slide stop or decocker.

You might want to try my older, or other, method: Use the left thumb to lock down the right.
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That's exactly how I changed my grip also, was the typical 1911 style with thumb high, but I kept hitting the slide lock. My groups on the Sig were much better also, after that change.

Steve

Funny, ain't it? I knew 1911 shooters who were high thumb and low thumb. The most influential instructor I had at the time was a true master blaster, and he was low thumb. He saw me put a thumb guard on one of my 1911s once and gave me a rash of poop. "Shoot the thing the way God and John Moses Browning intended!"
He was (and I'm sure still is) a piece of work. But, lordy, the man was as good as gunner as I've ever seen. He could pop tight groups on IPSC-target heads from 30 yards away, sitting on a picnic table, with a 2"-barreled J-frame. Guy's vision must have been extraordinary.
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i place weak thumb over strong thumb
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