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Old 11-03-2012, 02:00 PM   #1
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A question of accuracy

I picked up a 226 9mm hoping to use to shoot some IDPA. The lack of accuracy is nothing short of astounding. I didn't even bother to measure the groups, perhaps patterns would be a more appropriate term. Any experience making these things shoot? How ammo sensitive are they? Please don't talk to me about great groups at 10 yards. I'm talking about 25 & 50 yard accuracy. Any help would be appreciated.

So far, I'm not very impressed with Sig. I really want to be impressed, but a weapon has to be accurate otherwise it's just a very loud club.
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You either suck or there is somthing wrong with your gun. These P series guns easily group 1/2" size groups at 7 yards off hand. 1" at 20 yards. If you can't print a good group at 7 yards, then don't bother going out any further. My P229 Elite 40s&w can stack 24 rounds easily in a 1" group with no flyers at 20 yards. I shoot IPSC and IDPA and my P229 is as accurate as my custom 1911 limited gun. It is possible your gun doesn't like your particular brand of ammo but you would see this at 7 yards as a point or reference.
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I picked up a 226 9mm hoping to use to shoot some IDPA. The lack of accuracy is nothing short of astounding. I didn't even bother to measure the groups, perhaps patterns would be a more appropriate term. Any experience making these things shoot? How ammo sensitive are they? Please don't talk to me about great groups at 10 yards. I'm talking about 25 & 50 yard accuracy. Any help would be appreciated.

So far, I'm not very impressed with Sig. I really want to be impressed, but a weapon has to be accurate otherwise it's just a very loud club.
Trigger control is extremely important when shooting handguns. When switching to a new platform, you must work in dry fire to get used to a new trigger system. Try practicing dryfire with a laser and snap caps and have a friend watch the laser for you. With my 2022, I can get 8" groups without too much difficulty at 50 yards offhand. 7 yards: one hole.
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I'm not being argumentative, however, I do know how to shoot. I am double Distinguished, have won National Titles, and have set a few records. It is not a matter of a new weapon system, trigger system, or such. Granted, I'm old, crippled and can't see, but I can still shoot 97 4 or 5x rapid fire at 25 yds. (Bullseye) Using ball & dummy, there is no, and I mean zero sight deflection when the trigger breaks. I'm kind of stumped. The same ammo shoots 2" at 25 yds out of a S&W 3913 and about an inch out of a Walther P38-p1. Both standing unsupported at 25 yds.

The 226 seems tight and passes Armorers inspection. I'm beginning to think I've got a rough bore. I'll see how it feels when I clean it tonight, and may lap the barrel if it seems a bit rough.

Any other ideas and or suggestions are appreciated.
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Sandbag it and see how it does. Perhaps there is a issue with the crown. Get a loupe and check it out. I can't imagine a P226 shooting bad in the hands of a experienced shooter without a defect of some kind. Generally a P226 can take a average shooter and make them shoot better. I am betting your Sig has a issue.
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Duh. Talk about overlooking the basics. Never even thought to check the crown. On my way to the shop now. Hope it's just that easy.

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The P226 is an extremely accurate pistol by design and has proven to be one of the most accurate if not most accurate 9MM combat pistols available easily capable of sub two inch groups at 25 yards with decent ammo.

Now maybe you have a problem with the one you picked up??

Good luck having it checked out and let us know how it goes.

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"my P229 is as accurate as my custom 1911 limited gun".

interesting claim. post a couple targets from same distance.
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Check out that barrel, then. Good luck!
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OK, found two things that could have an adverse effect on accuracy. First, the crown was, the only way I can describe it is "rough". Second, the bore was rough. I could feel it with a tight patch. Both conditions have been corrected ( I hope ). Now, I'm a better than average shot, but even I can't do the weapon justice under the current conditions. ( it's dark ) Tomorrow we will see.

Thanks to all for your input. Any additional ideas, please sound off.
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OK, found two things that could have an adverse effect on accuracy. First, the crown was, the only way I can describe it is "rough". Second, the bore was rough. I could feel it with a tight patch. Both conditions have been corrected ( I hope ). Now, I'm a better than average shot, but even I can't do the weapon justice under the current conditions. ( it's dark ) Tomorrow we will see.

Thanks to all for your input. Any additional ideas, please sound off.
Was it new or used?

Good luck!
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My P226 is more accurate than I can shoot. Have one of your shooter friends try the gun. If they can't keep groups, there is a good possibility that there is something wrong with the P226. If this is the case, I would contact SIG Customer Service. Here is their contact info:

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Will do next time I shoot them together.
Here is just some basic targets testing out various grains of 45acp ammo for matches shooting not very slow.

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"my P229 is as accurate as my custom 1911 limited gun".

interesting claim. post a couple targets from same distance.
Some of these are 24 shot groups with differet grain ammo 185gr and 230gr.
They all seem to have the same POI. My Sig P229 Elite Dark 40s&w is the same way. It isn't that picky and all brands produce very good to excelent results.

My rig.

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Sigarms; It was new today.

Sigp; Thanks, however I was an armorer for 30+ yrs. I don't care if the factory will fix it. I will figure it out. I'm just kind of hard headed that way.
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