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Old 12-29-2012, 05:29 PM   #16
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Glad everyone was safe. Sorry about your recliner, well at least it has character and you can show everyone that Gun Safety is priority one. I would send it back to the mothership for evaluation.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:37 PM   #17
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Terrifying.

Don't put another round in that gun and get it back to Sig ASAP. Let us know what they find and how they make this right.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:39 PM   #18
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extremely lucky, poor recliner.
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Old 12-30-2012, 03:44 AM   #19
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I couldnt sleep for reliving the recliner mishap last night so I finally just got up and field stripped the P938 to try to find out what could have caused the gun to fire when the safety was released. I take full responsibility for what happened but that said, i feel there is a design problem with the trigger bar. Here is what happened. I removed the Hogue rubber grips to clean the pistol. When I reasembled the gun the trigger bar (11) slipped out of position under the disconnector (13) and was riding on top of the disconnector. when the rubber grips went back on they were putting a small amount of pressure on the trigger bar which made the trigger sticky. Because the rubber grips are so flexible the screws went right back in and everything looked normal. This gun had a rough trigger pull from the start and I just didn't notice the difference. the trigger never came fully forward so when i released the safety it was like I was partially pulling the trigger which let the hammer fall and fire the pistol. I don't think this could happen on the same gun with hard grips as the screws would not go back and if they did the trigger would be bound tight. My gun is the model that comes from the factory with the Hogue grips. I did not modify it in any way. You have to be very careful when reassembling to make sure the trigger bar stays in position. All it takes is a touch and it will slip up over the disconnector. The fix would be to add a small bar to the frame to keep the trigger bar from moving sideways. I don't think the grips should be responsible for keeping part of the action in place.
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I am glad no one was injuried except your pride. As we say...."There are those that have and those that will". A ND will get your attention.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:28 AM   #21
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That HAD to be a loud report indoors....good on you for following the basics so no one was hurt.

Now you just need to invent some colorful story about how the recliner got shot...
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:00 AM   #22
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Glad you had it pointed in a safe direction! A true accidental discharge if the pistol itself malfunctioned!
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:36 AM   #23
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Before demonstrating the functions of any weapon, proper safe handling procedures should be followed. They were not followed in this case and luckily it was only the recliner that paid the price...it could very well have been your daughter. You had a guardian angel watching over you that day.

The magazine should have been removed, slide locked to the rear to clear the chamber, inspected to ensure the weapon was safe. Then proceed to demonstrate the function of the safety.

Never trust the safety device on any weapon.

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Old 12-30-2012, 05:27 PM   #24
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Longshot I couldn't agree more. I had no intention of doing anything other than showing it to her and when she said how does the safety work before I could even think about it I pointed the barrel towards the wall and pushed the safety off. I guess it proves that humans are not perfect and I'm far from it. Humble and grateful I am though.
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I would suggest talk to Sig about it, and go to the range and test it out.
What happend after the recliner? Did it hold the round, or did it keep going?
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I couldnt sleep for reliving the recliner mishap last night so I finally just got up and field stripped the P938 to try to find out what could have caused the gun to fire when the safety was released. I take full responsibility for what happened but that said, i feel there is a design problem with the trigger bar. Here is what happened. I removed the Hogue rubber grips to clean the pistol. When I reasembled the gun the trigger bar (11) slipped out of position under the disconnector (13) and was riding on top of the disconnector. when the rubber grips went back on they were putting a small amount of pressure on the trigger bar which made the trigger sticky. Because the rubber grips are so flexible the screws went right back in and everything looked normal. This gun had a rough trigger pull from the start and I just didn't notice the difference. the trigger never came fully forward so when i released the safety it was like I was partially pulling the trigger which let the hammer fall and fire the pistol. I don't think this could happen on the same gun with hard grips as the screws would not go back and if they did the trigger would be bound tight. My gun is the model that comes from the factory with the Hogue grips. I did not modify it in any way. You have to be very careful when reassembling to make sure the trigger bar stays in position. All it takes is a touch and it will slip up over the disconnector. The fix would be to add a small bar to the frame to keep the trigger bar from moving sideways. I don't think the grips should be responsible for keeping part of the action in place.
Had you performed a function check on the pistol after you reassembled it?
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Longshot I couldn't agree more. I had no intention of doing anything other than showing it to her and when she said how does the safety work before I could even think about it I pointed the barrel towards the wall and pushed the safety off. I guess it proves that humans are not perfect and I'm far from it. Humble and grateful I am though.
I'm sure this incident will forever serve as a reminder to always make it safe. Your future recliners will appreciate it .
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Call Sig 1st thing Monday and let us know what you find out.
I had heard of that and I checked mine out at the range several times with no problem.

I agree... Here's their contact info:

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The round exited the back of the recliner and went through the outside wall into the yard outside. The pistol was pointed in a downward direction. I did check the function of the pistol before loading it back up. The problem was the tighter you grip the pistol the more the trigger will drag. Of course this would have never happened if I had not let the trigger bar slip out of position in the first place. This can only happen with the rubber grips and shouldn't be an issue with hard grips. Totally my fault but I still don't think it's good practice for the grip to be part of the moving mechanism. The inside of the grip is responsible for keeping the bar in place. Like I said earlier the trigger was really awful when I bought the pistol. It makes me wonder if the trigger bar had been assembled wrong in the first place. The trigger isn't too bad now that I reassembled it with the trigger bar in it proper place under the disconnector. Please don't take this as bashing Sig. I'm not, I bought this because of recommendations from my older brother and my brother-in-law that own several Sigs and love them.
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DAMN! glad you and your family are OK. That's a very humble experience and goes to show you can never be too safe.
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