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Old 01-02-2013, 07:51 AM   #16
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It takes about a 1/4 second to rack your slide to chamber a round. IMO, it's better than walking around with one in the spout, relying on your half-cock or safety.

In my experience, just the sound of racking a weapon is sufficient to intimidated the individual(s) in question. As sigp229r said, it could be the difference between life and a catastrophic incident.
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I carry with 1 in the pipe, but I know the weapon in and out, that's what makes me comfortable. You need to be 1 with your gun!
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Do not let anyone tell you a "right" answer on this. The right answer is different for everyone. If you don't feel comfortable with a round chambered "cocked and locked" don't carry that way. Either way of carrying has its pros and cons, and either way can be effective if you practice and train consistently. What is important, and right, is that you are comfortable with your weapon and how you carry/use it.
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It takes about a 1/4 second to rack your slide to chamber a round. IMO, it's better than walking around with one in the spout, relying on your half-cock or safety.

In my experience, just the sound of racking a weapon is sufficient to intimidated the individual(s) in question. As sigp229r said, it could be the difference between life and a catastrophic incident.
in some places, racking the slide could be considered brandishing.
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If you're racking the slide, you are brandishing and responding to a threat.
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In some places, if your shirt raises above the handgun in your waistline, that itself is brandishing.
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For me it depends on the handgun. My comfort level with one in the chamber varies with type, features, and my familiarity with the weapon. I feel comfortable with the LC9, Nano, and P250 with a round in the ready (and also my double action revolvers). I don't have the same confidence with the single action 1911 yet. And I don't carry the 1911. Someday I might have mor confidence with the chambered safety of the type, but not yet.
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brandishing is illegal in most states including yours:
Brandishing Firearm in Public; Applicability; Violation as Misdemeanor; Penalty - Mich. Comp. Laws Section 750.234e - Michigan Attorney Resources - Michigan Laws
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I am new to carrying concealed. I have a sig 290 and all safety courses I have ever taken have always talked about making sure the gun is empty and so forth. I guess I will get more comfortable carrying loaded it will get easier but for some reason when I carry my 290 the hammer being partially cocked makes me uneasy, I don't know why it just does. My wife has a bersa 380 and it don't bother me as much because I can let the hammer all the way down. Is this something that will get easier the more you carry?
maybe it's just me but i'm getting the vibe that you are carrying but don't have a CCW. the 290 is a DAO/DAK, the hammer should not be "partially cocked."
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It takes about a 1/4 second to rack your slide to chamber a round. IMO, it's better than walking around with one in the spout, relying on your half-cock or safety.

In my experience, just the sound of racking a weapon is sufficient to intimidated the individual(s) in question. As sigp229r said, it could be the difference between life and a catastrophic incident.
IMHO, you really don't need to carry. if you are not good to go, chances are you are a future victim and will just be adding to the guns in a criminal's hands after the beat the snot out of you and take it
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For me it depends on the handgun. My comfort level with one in the chamber varies with type, features, and my familiarity with the weapon. I feel comfortable with the LC9, Nano, and P250 with a round in the ready (and also my double action revolvers). I don't have the same confidence with the single action 1911 yet. And I don't carry the 1911. Someday I might have mor confidence with the chambered safety of the type, but not yet.
You do realize... The 1911 has the most safeties of any of those guns mentioned... Grip, thumb safety, firing pin block safety, trigger, and disconnector all have to be engaged before the firing pin can contact the primer. 250? Trigger, firing pin safety, and disconnector. LC9? Same as the 250.
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Thanks Vetteguy I do have my permit and was just asking a question sorry to offend anyone.
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If you're worried about carrying +1, you could always use the Israeli method, which is empty chamber and racking as you pull the pistol.

I've seen some videos on YouTube with some super fast guys that you couldn't even tell they were racking if you were a non-gun person and I've even seen some slow people that have used it and it only took an extra 3/10 of a second.

With proper training, from what I've seen, you could do it just as fast as a +1 carry method.

I'll have to find that video of the Philippino guy, amazing stuff.
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Most failures to feed happen at chambering. And most of those happen when you are nervous. And most of those happen when you are distracted. And most of those happen when you are short on time. So try combining all of the above in a defensive confrontation.

It won't take you a couple seconds to chamber. Nope, it will take you the better part of a minute to fumble your way to clear the jam. Been there.
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If you're worried about carrying +1, you could always use the Israeli method, which is empty chamber and racking as you pull the pistol.

I've seen some videos on YouTube with some super fast guys that you couldn't even tell they were racking if you were a non-gun person and I've even seen some slow people that have used it and it only took an extra 3/10 of a second.

With proper training, from what I've seen, you could do it just as fast as a +1 carry method.

I'll have to find that video of the Philippino guy, amazing stuff.
what's done in a video is somewhat misleading, with no real threat.

as mentioned above, what if both hands aren't free?

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