This is a discussion on SIG Sauer P210 coming again! within the SIG Sauer Pistols forums, part of the SIG Sauer Forum category; So here is the European site info: http://www.sigsauer.de/index.php?id=1024&lang=en The legendary Swiss Army Pistol P210 - now relaunched by SIG SAUER: Swiss precision made in Germany. ...
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|10-15-2010, 08:50 AM||#1|
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So here is the European site info:
The legendary Swiss Army Pistol P210 - now relaunched by SIG SAUER: Swiss precision made in Germany. The P210 is well known as one of the best handguns in the wolrld: High class material excellent processed to tightest fitting and superior precision. We even improved the original: The internal drop safety, the modern sights, american magazine catch, handy magazine bottom and the heavy frame ensure most comfortable handling. The robust QPQ coating and the smooth safety lever delight collectors and connoisseurs.
Caliber: 9 mm Para
Sight base: 160 mm
Barrel length: 120 mm
Rifling: 250 mm re.
Number of grooves: 6
Measurements (LxHx: 216x143x33 mm
Weight incl. magazine: 1.060 g
Trigger pull weight (approx.): SA 15 N
Magazine capacity: 8
But SIG has said early 2011 details of release date for the US will be available and they are thinking some time around summer it will be available. Its a pistol I just want to have to say I have one
Opened breech of a Danish Army P210 The design was derived from Charles Petter's Modèle 1935 pistol. In 1937 SIG acquired a license for Petter's system in order to develop a replacement for the Luger Parabellum 06/29, which had been in service since 1900. Development was slowed by the Second World War. After testing various experimental models, the P210 entered service in 1949 with the Swiss army. Some previous series (original designation SP47/8) were tested by Swedish sport shooters and by the Danish army.
The SIG P210 is a single-action pistol, with a magazine capacity of eight rounds of 9 mm, 7.65 mm, or .22 Long Rifle (.22 LR). It is a licensed development from French-Swiss designer Charles Gabriel Petter's Modèle 1935 pistol. It has a frame-mounted manual safety that blocks the trigger and a magazine disconnecter safety that blocks the trigger when the magazine is removed. It has a 120 mm high quality barrel (150 mm in the 210-5 variant) and the pistol is very durable and reliable. The slide and frame of this well-regarded weapon are completely machined from blocks of steel, which makes production rather costly compared to recent pistol designs, manufactured of pressings and welds. Its hammer action is built into a removable assembly for easy maintenance, after the fashion of the Tokarev TT-30 pistol, whereas its slide rides inside the frame rails, rather than outside as in the traditional Browning pattern. This latter featured mimics the frame-to-receiver interface of its predecessor in Swiss military service, the Luger pistol, allowing for a very tight fit between the slide, barrel, and frame without compromising reliability. This construction feature contributes to the unusually high accuracy for which the SIG P210 is known. It ships with a 50-meter (54.7 yd) test target typically showing a group of five to ten shots in a cluster under 5 cm (2 in) in diameter.
SIG 44/16, 16-round magazine, prototype 1944 There are a number of SIG P210 model variations.
SIG P210-1: The commercial version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood grips, fixed sights, and polished blued finish.
SIG P210-2: The original Swiss army version chambered in 9 mm Luger, with plastic grips, fixed sights, and bead blasted finish.
SIG P210-3: The Swiss police version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood grips, fixed sights, and polished blued finish.
SIG P210-4: The German border guards Bundesgrenzschutz issue chambered in 9 mm Luger, a modified version of the P210-2 that omits the lanyard loop and includes a loaded chamber indicator. Serial numbers are D 0001 to D 5000.
SIG P210-5: The sports extended barrel version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood grips, an adjustable trigger, a 150 mm extended barrel with a detachable front sight mount, adjustable target sights, and bead blasted finish.
SIG P210-6: The sports (120 mm barrel) version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood or plastic grips, an adjustable trigger, fixed or adjustable sights, and bead blasted finish, built on the standard or heavy frame.
SIG P210-7: The .22 LR rimfire version with wood or plastic grips, fixed or adjustable sights, the latter version fitted with a special cut down hammer. The special slide, barrel, recoil spring, and magazine fitted to this pistol are available as a conversion kit adaptable to all P210 centerfire models.
SIG P210-2 SIG P210-8: The deluxe sports version chambered in 9 mm Luger, with a side mounted magazine catch, wood grips, an adjustable trigger, adjustable sights, and bead blasted finish, built on the heavy frame.
SIG P210-5LS: The 2003 version chambered in 9 mm Luger, which has a side mounted magazine catch, wood grips, adjustable sights, bead blasted finish, and a longer slide and barrel fitted on the heavy frame.
SIG P210-6S: The 2003 version chambered in 9 mm Luger, which has a side mounted magazine catch, wood grips, adjustable sights, bead blasted finish, and a standard slide and barrel fitted on the heavy frame.
A certain geometrical variation on half moon configuration trigger, are done in sports versions.
Danish Army SIG P210 Pistol. The Danish version is also known as the M/49 or the Neuhausen pistol. The SIG M/49, usually called only Neuhausen in Denmark, is the Danish military issued version for officers, MPs and special forces, chambered in 9 mm Luger, and is a specially marked version of the P210-1 or P210-2. This is the standard sidearm in the Danish military, though heading on nearly 60 years of continuous use, the SIG M/49 is being replaced with the HK USP but still in service as main pistol in the Danish military.
Serial numbers starting with a P were made for private use. Those that start with an A are the property of the Swiss army. Those that start with an D belongs to the Bundesgrenzschutz issues. Those that have a P added to the rear of a serial number that starts with an A have been sold by the Swiss army to civilians. A stamped "P" (="privat") on the front of the trigger guard shows that a weapon was left as a gift to the owner upon leaving the Armed Services. Danish and German P210s have their own special serial numbers.
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|11-13-2011, 03:30 PM||#6|
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I ordered one of these in January. Last week, I got a call from my retailer that they think they may finally be getting one for me. Lots of stories, perhaps the most believable is that they just overestimated the capacity of their custom shop to do their normal work and add a new product. They're way behind on shipments. To make matters worse, I want the Target model with the adjustable sights.
I understand they are super pistols, and certainly in the same league as the Swiss guns, but after the best part of a year of waiting, well, it sorta takes the fun out of it. In any event, I hope to get it soon, and that it continues the legend of the p210.
|11-16-2011, 02:44 PM||#8|
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After being ordered in January, and being told it will be here "next month" for six months, I'd nearly given up on it, but my p210 Target Legend, came today. It is a bit smaller than I remember, very well made, well balanced, and fits my hand very naturally. I took it apart, cleaned it, greased it up and was impressed the way it digested about 300 different rounds this afternoon. Wow! The greased up slide fit and feel is impressive. No wiggle, slop, or play; tolerances must be very tight. The adjustable target sight is beautifully designed into the sight ramp table that held the fixed sight and wore the Swiss cross insignia on the original gun.
Shot Winchester White Box, Federal, Speer, Winchester Ranger, FMJ and HP, bullet weights from 115 to 147 grains... No FTF or FTE. Very smooth functioning, with a reasonable weight recoil spring. After the spring in my X5 Allround in .40, if feels absolutely civilized. And smooth as butter as it functions.
Comes into sight alignment just like pointing your finger. Best part is the trigger, very smooth and without friction points--once the slack is taken up, there are no discernible "stages", it is steady in terms of light pull, and linear till the sear breaks. Very, very accurate at 7 yards, and impressive at 25 yards. My groupings were bigger than the sample target that came with the gun, but very respectable, even this first time at the range. I was struck by how like shooting a good rifle it is, meaning knowing where a round will hit by the sight picture when it goes off. If I took my time and concentrated, I produced very small groupings.
Time will tell if the "Legend" continues the legend, but this is a superb pistol. It will take some practice, breath holding and smooth squeezing to shoot it as well as it is capable of being shot. The "reach around" thumb cocking is not made too cumbersome by the new beavertail.
Dunno if it is worth a $2K tab. Is any pistol worth two thousand dollars, even one thought by some to be the best ever made? But it is far and away the best fitting, smoothest functioning gun I have ever shot. My only ding is the Nitron finish is sort of underwhelming. I guess not when one remembers that its origins are a military/police pistol, but for this kind of money, a deep polished blued finish seems appropriate, with maybe case hardened hammer and trigger. Wood fits great and is beautifully checkered, if lacking in much figure.
I like it a lot. It merits real pride of ownership and challenges one to shoot his or her best.
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