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Old 02-26-2017, 05:03 PM   #16
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My SIG P224 SAS DAK 9MM was Mfg 8 March 2016. Caught it during a yearly Sale at Defender Outdoors here in Fort Worth for $549 today. Ran 100 rounds thru it, no problems of course. I did have to get used to what they call a DAK trigger, I call it DAO. Once I figured out how to stage the trigger all the hits at 7 yards were right on.

I cant find it however, on the SIG Web site so I assume it has been discontinued. I was glad to find out my P229 mags fit it though.
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Some of SIG's P224s may have recent build dates -- but that doesn't mean most of the parts themselves were made/sourced years before.

When I left there in May 2016, one of the last projects I worked on was "to identify all the excess P224 parts in inventory" so they could be built into guns to reduce the investment in excess parts.

And it was not a small number...

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Some of SIG's P224s may have recent build dates -- but that doesn't mean most of the parts themselves were made/sourced years before.

When I left there in May 2016, one of the last projects I worked on was "to identify all the excess P224 parts in inventory" so they could be built into guns to reduce the investment in excess parts.

And it was not a small number...

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That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Don't know if you can answer this in an open forum, but can you say what SIG's strategy is for supporting the P224 after it has been discontinued? Specifically, will they continue to produce spare parts for it?
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Look at all these Texans. Defender is where I shoot too my P224 DAK also! I love old thread revival.
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That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Don't know if you can answer this in an open forum, but can you say what SIG's strategy is for supporting the P224 after it has been discontinued? Specifically, will they continue to produce spare parts for it?
I can't speak for ThnkFrst or SIG, but I can say 99% of 224 parts are common to all other classic P series pistols. I think the only unique parts would be the frame, barrel, slide and magazines.
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I can't speak for ThnkFrst or SIG, but I can say 99% of 224 parts are common to all other classic P series pistols. I think the only unique parts would be the frame, barrel, slide and magazines.
Actually, it's closer to 50% of the p224 parts are common with other P-series pistols. P224 unique parts include barrel, guide rod, recoil spring, locking insert, takedown lever, slide catch lever spring, trigger bar, trigger bar spring, mainspring, mainspring seat, hammer strut, decocking lever, decocking lever spring and decocking lever bearing.

These parts are also used on the P229 Carry.
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Don't know if you can answer this in an open forum, but can you say what SIG's strategy is for supporting the P224 after it has been discontinued? Specifically, will they continue to produce spare parts for it?
My info is month's old now, and since I'm no longer there, it wouldn't be fair to SIG for me to speculate any -- sorry.
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Actually, it's closer to 50% of the p224 parts are common with other P-series pistols. P224 unique parts include barrel, guide rod, recoil spring, locking insert, takedown lever, slide catch lever spring, trigger bar, trigger bar spring, mainspring, mainspring seat, hammer strut, decocking lever, decocking lever spring and decocking lever bearing.

These parts are also used on the P229 Carry.
A question that was always on my mind -- which I never heard answered while I was working there -- was whether the P229 Carry was brought out due to (a) Market demands, or (b) To use up P224 parts inventory? I always wondered about that...

I did have a P224 for a few months, before someone at the range wanted it much more than I did, and now I'm very happy with the P239 that I got as it carries concealed much better for me. But if I recall, I believe the P224 with the extended mag in it was pretty close in overall size/capacity to the P229 Carry; or at least that's what I have always thought.

Anyway, since I still have friends working there and I truly respect the brand -- and bet my life on it when I carry my P239 -- I think it's only fair for me to refrain from making any more comments about SIG's internal status on parts or other, as I just don't know for sure anymore. Hope you all understand.

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I fully understand your feelings and agree with your approach on the matter.

That said, it would be quite helpful to the consumer trying to provision spares for a P224/229C or even debating the purchase of one, if SIG would be more forthcoming with some answer to the question.

I've said that I think the future value of these two pistols (assuming they do stay out of production) could be quite good. They are, in fact, very good pistols of a very interesting design. A lack of available spares could really damage that value.
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I called SIG to order a stock of spare parts for my two P224 DAK pistols. The guy taking my order told me not to be concerned and that parts for P224 would be available for some time.

I think the P224 is a gun killed by internet stories from people who never owned one. Mine have been uniformly excellent. I have a difficult time imagining a better carry gun.
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I do know that several 224's showed up on CDNN about a year ago. Usually means something is "up" when several different models show up at the same time. I got the 224 Extreme .40 for $449 (+ shipping). I was VERY pleased with it and it immediately replaced my 229 in my carry rotation (but not for ever. Mostly when wearing lighter clothing.) It may have the best (stock) DA/SA trigger of any of my weapons, or perhaps tied with my 10mm Two Tone. I bought it as an "impulse buy" but after firing it ONE time, it became an instant favorite. Loaded 2 rounds into the mag (like I always do the first time I shoot a new pistol), mowed down 2 bowling pins at 12 yards. Loaded 5 and moved back to 20 yards and hit pins on all 5. Lost count after that but it was an impressive start. I always like it when that happens and it makes me more confident in the weapon for carry. Several hundred rounds down the pipe that first day without a jam. I was in love.
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I wish they would have kept this model, or at least make a "229 Compact" as a consolation prize.
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My SIG P224 SAS DAK 9MM was Mfg 8 March 2016. Caught it during a yearly Sale at Defender Outdoors here in Fort Worth for $549 today. Ran 100 rounds thru it, no problems of course. I did have to get used to what they call a DAK trigger, I call it DAO. Once I figured out how to stage the trigger all the hits at 7 yards were right on.

I cant find it however, on the SIG Web site so I assume it has been discontinued. I was glad to find out my P229 mags fit it though.
Just for the official record, in SIG language, the "DAK" trigger and the "DAO" are slightly different. Sig makes a trigger that they call the "DAO" and it does differ slightly from the DAK. The difference in the DAK vs DAO is subtle but if you shoot them both you will see it. The DAK basically has 2 reset points. A short reset point which RAISES the second shot trigger pull (to around 8.5 lbs) and a long completely let-it-go reset point which returns the trigger point back to the starting point which is usually around 6-7 lbs. the DAK is of course DAO but I am just clarifying that in Sig language, "DAK" and "DAO" are slightly different triggers. The purpose of the DAK is to make it slightly more difficult to fire a shot, short reset the trigger, then accidentally fire off the second shot in a stressful situation.

I believe (don't quote me and feel free to correct me) the 226 and 229 are the only Sigs that are currently being sold with the "Sig DAO" trigger.

Frequently when shooters get used to the Sig DA/SA trigger (which of course is EASIER to shoot follow up shots after allowing for the short reset), they tend to not like the DAK since utilizing the short reset point actually makes follow up shots more difficult unless you let go of the trigger. H&K calls this set up "the LEM (law enforcement module)"
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I believe that the dao are long gone. There are a few models still available with the DAK. The dao was the same pull every time, like the 250.


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