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Old 06-21-2016, 10:41 AM   #1
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I'm drifting away from the P229 SAS. What about the P229 carry

I've been debating between going with a P229 SAS or a CZ PCR (see my other post). As I look into things I've been drifting away from the SAS and now I'm wondering if the P229ca carry might be the one I should be considering. My understanding is that even though it carries the 229 moniker it's actually more of a P224 with a full sized grip. The SAS can be converted from .40S&W or 357 Sig to 9mm using a Bar-Sto barrel which apparently needs to be fitted. My understanding on the Carry version is that the 9mm barrel from a P224 will (should) drop right in. What about the magazines. Are they different and will the 9mm mag flop around in the magwell? Does the Carry use the same sights as the full size Sigs? Will a SRT from a standard P229 work in the Carry? Are most of the internals similar to the p229 or is there a possibility of parts drying up after the Carry gets discontinued (my understanding is that they are a special run)? Anything else I should consider. If I go with the sig it would also be replacing my Beretta which will shift very nicely between 40S&W and 9mm and is absolutely reliable so I would expect the same from my Sig.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:55 AM   #2
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I went thru the same process as yours. For DA/SA carry guns in 9mm, there are not many options out there. My choices were CZ PCR, CZ P09, P229 SAS, P239, P225, and HK P30SK V3. I think right now the HK is my top choice as far as reliability, capacity, weight, shootability. I will try to rent it and see how it shoots but so far the reviews have been great.
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I would prefer to carry in .40 cal but I like the option of swapping out to a 9mm if a situation arises where .40 is not available or at hand. I also prefer exposed hammer pistols and am not really fond of poly frames.
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Someone posted a link to 40sw P229's for 600 new in the box at CDNN. I think they had E2 grips too. Only thing though they didn't have night sights, and 1-10 round mag and 1-12 round mag. They have the P229C for 679, but it has G10 grips, and night sights. Along with 2-12 round mags. I think the P229C has some build advantages vs the standard P-series pistols too. They are pretty awesome. The way the grip's work, the locking block being stainless (not riding on aluminum rails).

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Here's all I know about the P229C, including parts commonality with other SIG models: http://sigtalk.com/sig-sauer-pistols...rry-house.html
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I would prefer to carry in .40 cal but I like the option of swapping out to a 9mm if a situation arises where .40 is not available or at hand. I also prefer exposed hammer pistols and am not really fond of poly frames.
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Here's all I know about the P229C, including parts commonality with other SIG models: http://sigtalk.com/sig-sauer-pistols...rry-house.html
If there was a way to like gryphon's post twice or more, I'd be that - I'm with you 100%. No way I'll carry a 9mm if circumstances will allow me to carry something the size of a P229 in 40. If not, then it'll be a P938, which is physically more comfortable to carry, have to check it's still there it fits so well, and mentally "not quite" as comforting as the 40.

Excellent write up ThnkFrst, good info as usual.

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There's something the 239 can't do?
I have a 229sas, and a 239/9.
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I would recommend that you drift back to the P229 - in some flavor other than the P229C because the P229C is more P224 than P229.

I would recommend:

The P229 SAS in any caliber
The P229R in any variant and in any caliber
M11-A1 (which is really a rail-less P229 9mm)

You will be happier in the long run and will be able to swap out slide assemblies with other P229s or by getting P229 Caliber X-Change Kits.
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I have a P229c SAS 40cal and bought a .357sig p224 barrel for it and it is my favorite of the 5 p-series sigs that I own. I have a 9mm P229 Enhanced Elite also but the reduced beavertail and the grip of the P229c fits my hands better and i am more accurate shooting in in either 357 or 40 than I am the P229EE. Thats just me and someone else might shoot the other better.

I paid 549 for the P229c SAS and somewhere around 1000 for the P229EE.

Roughly 450 more for .5" barrel and a rail
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I would recommend that you drift back to the P229 - in some flavor other than the P229C because the P229C is more P224 than P229.
And that's a problem because…?
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I wouldn't call it a "problem."

I'm not knocking anyone owning one if that's your thing. I know you have one, TF.

But I like the tried-and-true P229 design with longer-length slide rails over the swappable, short rail/insert/doohickey of the P224 that's in the P229C.

I also like that it is easy to swap slides with any other P229 (sticking with modern models after the 9mm adopted the 40 frame, of course) or slap on a standard (modern) P229 caliber exchange kit.

I also don't think cutting a tiny bit more off the slide and barrel to make a gun that is a tiny bit shorter than a P229 buys you anything in concealability. And it just cuts a little more off the ballistic performance from the P229 length which cuts a little more performance from a P226.

I have never had any interest in the P224.

I find the P229 to be immensely easy to shoot, even in the so-called "snappy" .40S&W.

It is a personal preference and one that I would recommend; even with the knowledge that I've never even held a P229C, let alone shoot one.

Just personal opinion. (shrug)
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:28 PM   #12
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You don't have to sell me on the merits of the P229. My first "real" SIG (after a short stint with a P250) was my P229R/9mm. It's my HD piece and it is a rock; 7k rounds without a whimper, deadly accurate and a pleasure to shoot.

I was looking for a higher capacity carry than my P239/357SIG, don't like rails for carry, and I personally don't like the idea of running multiple slides on aluminum frames.

As I've said elsewhere, the P224/229C has some design elements that I prefer over the P229, the frame rails integrated into the steel locking insert being one of them. IMHO, the 229C is a darn fine SIG.

And if they never produce it again I won't be too sad cuz I gots mine.
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Pics for comparison. P229EE top and P229c SAS bottom

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What's with the asterisks showing up in all ** these posts?

Looks like some new algorithm on the site to filter out stuff has a logic flaw.

EDIT: For the record, I spelled "o f" where those two asterisks showed up.

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I wouldn't trade my 229 sas .40 for anything. I love it.
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