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Old 09-21-2016, 04:08 PM   #1
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P220 police trade in...good deal?

P220 45 ACP DAK with night sights, $449.95 Very good condition

I've been thinking about getting 220 for a while just to have 45. Does this sound like a fair deal? I have a HK LEM so use to the trigger but not my favorite.

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Old 09-21-2016, 04:12 PM   #2
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Fair deal.
Not, if you don't like DAK.
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Not a fan of the DAK, prefer the da/sa but if you don't mind that is a good price.
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It will cost around $150 (or more) to convert to DA/SA, so only a good deal if you want a DAK.
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I'm not a fan of DAK, but sounds like a good deal to me...
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Sounds like a good deal indeed...just bought one as well but for $550 (DA/SA and in perfect as new condition)
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NOT DAK!

Before You Buy a SIG DAK, Read This - Guns.com

Most people are shooting DA/SA because it's a standard transition from DA to SA.

Here is my German-made P220 DA/SA P220 from a Virginia Sheriff Department (came with dim Trijicons and OEM polymer grips:



IIRC - $495 on GunBroker several months ago.
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Good article, don't think I would like DAK, have too many DA/SA already anyway.
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NOT DAK!

Before You Buy a SIG DAK, Read This - Guns.com

Most people are shooting DA/SA because it's a standard transition from DA to SA.

Here is my German-made P220 DA/SA P220 from a Virginia Sheriff Department (came with dim Trijicons and OEM polymer grips:



IIRC - $495 on GunBroker several months ago.
The DAK trigger is a fine system, I disagree with a couple of points in the article.

First, he argues about the safety levers possibly getting caught. The DAK has no safety levers AND it does away with the decocking lever, too. I find a safety lever about as likely to get caught as the decocking lever, why not do away with both?

For an armed civilian (i.e. not LEO or military), the first shot is the most critical, IMHO, in a defensive scenario. The initial trigger pull of the DAK is no longer than that of the DA/SA. The difference between the two initial pulls is the weight - DAK at about 6.5# and DA/SA at over 10#. Which trigger system will afford you the most accurate initial shot?

Saying the reset of the DAK is longer than that of the DA/SA is a bit disingenuous. This is true if the Short Reset Trigger is in the comparison, but I find the reset of the DAK to be about the same as the Standard Reset of a SIG DA/SA P-series pistol.

Yes, the trigger pull on reset with the DAK is a bit heavier than the initial pull, about 8# vs. about 6.5# for the initial. But this difference is miniscule when compared to the same values in the DA/SA trigger - around 10.5# for initial vs. about 4.5# for followup shots. I find this consistency in the DAK to be favorable, at least to me.

And the real benefit I see in the DAK is the manual of arms. With no decockers or safeties to manipulate in the course of operation, I find it jives perfectly with the training and practice I have invested in my preferred carry pistol, the Glock. I own a few different DAK models, but the two I carry, the P239 and P229 (both are setup to run 9mm, 357 SIG and 40 S&W), have both been worked by Robert Burke. A couple of the smoothest triggers I own.

I firmly believe that if you allow this article to sway your thoughts about staying away from the DAK trigger system, you could possibly be making a mistake. I'm not saying DAK is for everyone, but the information you find on the internet doesn't always pertain to you or your needs either. I have sold most of my DA/SA SIG's, still have a P6, P226 stainless nitron and a 9mm P220, but the DAK's will stick around.
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Yes, the trigger pull on reset with the DAK is a bit heavier than the initial pull, about 8# vs. about 6.5# for the initial. But this difference is miniscule when compared to the same values in the DA/SA trigger - around 10.5# for initial vs. about 2# for followup shots.
I have a (US-made) P220 DA/SA, and I intend to put a trigger-pull gauge on it to test your claim as to trigger weight. The SA weight of 2# seems unlikely to me; I'd be astonished if it is that light.

Stay tuned for a follow-up accordingly.
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The DAK trigger is a fine system, I disagree with a couple of points in the article.

First, he argues about the safety levers possibly getting caught. The DAK has no safety levers AND it does away with the decocking lever, too. I find a safety lever about as likely to get caught as the decocking lever, why not do away with both?

For an armed civilian (i.e. not LEO or military), the first shot is the most critical, IMHO, in a defensive scenario. The initial trigger pull of the DAK is no longer than that of the DA/SA. The difference between the two initial pulls is the weight - DAK at about 6.5# and DA/SA at over 10#. Which trigger system will afford you the most accurate initial shot?

Saying the reset of the DAK is longer than that of the DA/SA is a bit disingenuous. This is true if the Short Reset Trigger is in the comparison, but I find the reset of the DAK to be about the same as the Standard Reset of a SIG DA/SA P-series pistol.

Yes, the trigger pull on reset with the DAK is a bit heavier than the initial pull, about 8# vs. about 6.5# for the initial. But this difference is miniscule when compared to the same values in the DA/SA trigger - around 10.5# for initial vs. about 2# for followup shots. I find this consistency in the DAK to be favorable, at least to me.

And the real benefit I see in the DAK is the manual of arms. With no decockers or safeties to manipulate in the course of operation, I find it jives perfectly with the training and practice I have invested in my preferred carry pistol, the Glock. I own a few different DAK models, but the two I carry, the P239 and P229 (both are setup to run 9mm, 357 SIG and 40 S&W), have both been worked by Robert Burke. A couple of the smoothest triggers I own.

I firmly believe that if you allow this article to sway your thoughts about staying away from the DAK trigger system, you could possibly be making a mistake. I'm not saying DAK is for everyone, but the information you find on the internet doesn't always pertain to you or your needs either. I have sold most of my DA/SA SIG's, still have a P6, P226 stainless nitron and a 9mm P220, but the DAK's will stick around.
There is little for me to add to Major Tom's excellent post, except to point out that the DAK's hammer is bobbed--along with the absence of the decocker, this is another nice "dehorning" feature for carry.

The DAK isn't for everyone (no trigger system is), but there is nothing inherently wrong with it. Don't reject it out of hand.
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The SA weight of 2# seems unlikely to me; I'd be astonished if it is that light.
You are right, my bad. I will correct my initial statement. Thank you!
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