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Old 09-16-2020, 09:55 PM   #16
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Looking forward to hundred of new threads in Chinese, broken search, and not being able to see anything except post titles in Chinese characters. Also the chance to close out the Vertical Scope banner, links to past threads opening a web browser in Tapatalk and many more hijinks.
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Change is inevitable, I mean tomorrow is Friday, even though I like Thursday just like it is.
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I have no idea what most of you guys are referring to with these proposed changes. Just finding this forum, and learning how to navigate it, was a tremendous accomplishment for me

From the responses Iíve read from those of you, who are much more tech savvy than I, it sounds like someone is getting ready to pizz down my leg, and tell me itís raining.

If, during or after the change, I am unable to continue as a member, it has been great knowing you guys. I put finding SigTalk, in the first place, way up on the list of lifeís lucky breaks.

I would not be opposed to sharing emails with some of you. Some
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I think I’ve posted twice on the Colt forum since they changed it many months ago. The owners don’t care. Many old time members simply left and never came back. They hope new members will join and never know the difference. But what they don’t realize is that the old timers are the ones with the knowledge. This place will become the same.
They did same announcement on the 1911 forum too. Soon all forums will be the same and tasteless like plain water.
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I think Iíve posted twice on the Colt forum since they changed it many months ago. The owners donít care. Many old time members simply left and never came back. They hope new members will join and never know the difference. But what they donít realize is that the old timers are the ones with the knowledge. This place will become the same.
They did same announcement on the 1911 forum too. Soon all forums will be the same and tasteless like plain water.
Very same thing happened with some of the car & truck forums I used to haunt. In one case, members mass migrated to an independent forum where the owner welcomed us with open arms

It has since exploded with activity & membership !
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I think Iíve posted twice on the Colt forum since they changed it many months ago. The owners donít care. Many old time members simply left and never came back. They hope new members will join and never know the difference. But what they donít realize is that the old timers are the ones with the knowledge. This place will become the same.
They did same announcement on the 1911 forum too. Soon all forums will be the same and tasteless like plain water.
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I think Iíve posted twice on the Colt forum since they changed it many months ago. The owners donít care. Many old time members simply left and never came back. They hope new members will join and never know the difference. But what they donít realize is that the old timers are the ones with the knowledge. This place will become the same.
They did same announcement on the 1911 forum too. Soon all forums will be the same and tasteless like plain water.
I joined the 1911 forum as well. Like a graveyard over there. I havnt been back. Whats being touted as a software change (to better enhance our forum experience) seems in reality that this site has been sold. All forums have always had the attitude towards its members that if you dont like it leave. They ALWAYS lose site of the fact that the members make the forum NOT the other way around. I of course will wait and see how it pans out but I dont see it being any different for this site than countless others. After doing a Google search and scrolling thru 2 pages of results and not finding even a single hint of a positive I got tired of looking.
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Whats being touted as a software change (to better enhance our forum experience) seems in reality that this site has been sold.
Exactly. If youíve lost another forum to them previously, youíll recognize their writing style and tone in that first message.

Itís been a pleasure learning from you folks in my time here. It seems it is time that I moved on.
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I'm an administrator on another one of VS forums that went through the software upgrade over a year ago. I'll share my experience with it.

That forum was one of the first to go through the changeover, it was July 18, 2019 that the new site went live. It took them one day to make the conversion.

There were definitely issues and growing pains as the techs implemented the new site. But remember, as I said, it was one of the first sites that converted from VBulleting to Xenforo. Keep in mind also that the VS techs built the new site from scratch and didn't just use templates provided by Xenforo.

The VS team responded promptly to some requests and not so promptly to others from the users of the forum. But they were all addressed.

Today the forum hums right along, and much better than it when it was running on VBulletin. I don't know of any members bailing because of the changeover.

Now, VS has had over a year to fine tune the software and to make considerable amounts of enhancements. I will say that they have reacted and listened to the input of the site staff and have made the experience for members better. I won't say it will be all perfect, but I think they have the implementation down pretty well by now. Not sure what all of the issues are/were that some of you have posted about other forums and members bailing because of them. You do hear about the negatives far more than the positives - just the nature of thing these days, I guess.

As stated by another member, we the members of the site, are what makes the site what it is and keeps it alive. The software that runs the site is just that, software that enables discussion.

For many of us who have been around a while, we are used to the way vBulletin looks, feels, acts, and behaves - even down to database crashes

Change is never easy, but I will have to say that once you spend a couple of hours with the new software I think you'll be pleasantly surprised that much of it acts just like what you're used to now, albeit with some different names of the things we are used to. It's really easy to use - just as easy, if not actually better! For those of us on the staff the backend changes are way more extensive than what the regular member will experience.

This list below is not all encompassing but it will give you an idea of what to expect with the descriptions and names, with VBulletin shown first followed by Xenforo

Thread = Discussion
Post = Post
New = New Post
Forums = Forums
Private Message (PM) = Conversation
Subscription = Following Discussion
Home = Full Forum Listing
UserCp = Account Settings
Likes = Likes (listed as Reactions in your account)
Search = Search Community

In addition, the site will have a Light/Dark Mode option in your browser.

VS had assembled a very robust FAQ section that will be easy to navigate and will answer pretty much any question about the new software, the site and how to use it. Things like, how do I change my profile, I do I start a Discussion, I how I edit a post, how do I upload/link an image, etc. It's all in one easy to find place.

I took the time to post this for a simple reason: I've been through the changeover, and there will undoubtedly be some glitches in the first few days, but it's nothing to jump ship over. Those glitches will be addressed and soon we'll be back to normal, albeit with a new interface to use, and a much more reliable software platform to grow with for the future.

And no, I was not paid to make these statements
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I'm an administrator on another one of VS forums that went through the software upgrade over a year ago. I'll share my experience with it.

That forum was one of the first to go through the changeover, it was July 18, 2019 that the new site went live. It took them one day to make the conversion.

There were definitely issues and growing pains as the techs implemented the new site. But remember, as I said, it was one of the first sites that converted from VBulleting to Xenforo. Keep in mind also that the VS techs built the new site from scratch and didn't just use templates provided by Xenforo.

The VS team responded promptly to some requests and not so promptly to others from the users of the forum. But they were all addressed.

Today the forum hums right along, and much better than it when it was running on VBulletin. I don't know of any members bailing because of the changeover.

Now, VS has had over a year to fine tune the software and to make considerable amounts of enhancements. I will say that they have reacted and listened to the input of the site staff and have made the experience for members better. I won't say it will be all perfect, but I think they have the implementation down pretty well by now. Not sure what all of the issues are/were that some of you have posted about other forums and members bailing because of them. You do hear about the negatives far more than the positives - just the nature of thing these days, I guess.

As stated by another member, we the members of the site, are what makes the site what it is and keeps it alive. The software that runs the site is just that, software that enables discussion.

For many of us who have been around a while, we are used to the way vBulletin looks, feels, acts, and behaves - even down to database crashes

Change is never easy, but I will have to say that once you spend a couple of hours with the new software I think you'll be pleasantly surprised that much of it acts just like what you're used to now, albeit with some different names of the things we are used to. It's really easy to use - just as easy, if not actually better! For those of us on the staff the backend changes are way more extensive than what the regular member will experience.

This list below is not all encompassing but it will give you an idea of what to expect with the descriptions and names, with VBulletin shown first followed by Xenforo

Thread = Discussion
Post = Post
New = New Post
Forums = Forums
Private Message (PM) = Conversation
Subscription = Following Discussion
Home = Full Forum Listing
UserCp = Account Settings
Likes = Likes (listed as Reactions in your account)
Search = Search Community

In addition, the site will have a Light/Dark Mode option in your browser.

VS had assembled a very robust FAQ section that will be easy to navigate and will answer pretty much any question about the new software, the site and how to use it. Things like, how do I change my profile, I do I start a Discussion, I how I edit a post, how do I upload/link an image, etc. It's all in one easy to find place.

I took the time to post this for a simple reason: I've been through the changeover, and there will undoubtedly be some glitches in the first few days, but it's nothing to jump ship over. Those glitches will be addressed and soon we'll be back to normal, albeit with a new interface to use, and a much more reliable software platform to grow with for the future.

And no, I was not paid to make these statements
Thank You for responding. If YOU say it I believe it. No reason not too as you are generally the voice of sanity and reason here. As far it goes the few dollars I spent here gained me more in return than any gun related monies spent over 50 years lol Im ahead of the game if it closed down tomorrow. I want it to work in the worst way.
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^^ The site will work just fine. The interface will be different, but as I said, everyone should get accustomed to it quickly. It's not hard to use

I'm not sure what all the handwringing by others is about frankly. It's just a software update. If you joined another forum that was running on VBulletin V5 that forum would a whole lot like Xenforo

ETA: I should ad - this site was purchased by VerticalScope from Forum Foundry in May 2016.
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^^ The site will work just fine. The interface will be different, but as I said, everyone should get accustomed to it quickly. It's not hard to use

I'm not sure what all the handwringing by others is about frankly. It's just a software update. If you joined another forum that was running on VBulletin V5 that forum would a whole lot like Xenforo

ETA: I should ad - this site was purchased by VerticalScope from Forum Foundry in May 2016.
PPPffffttt... handwringing? you know thats what we do, handwringing and speculating yep yep lol. Im as guilty as the next guy of that.
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^^ The site will work just fine. The interface will be different, but as I said, everyone should get accustomed to it quickly. It's not hard to use

I'm not sure what all the handwringing by others is about frankly. It's just a software update. If you joined another forum that was running on VBulletin V5 that forum would a whole lot like Xenforo

ETA: I should ad - this site was purchased by VerticalScope from Forum Foundry in May 2016.
See the thing is that most sites allow me to view desktop mode on my mobile iPhone. The new format will automatically tailor itself to the device one uses and us mobile users will be stuck with that. On the Colt forum the top banner takes up a 1/3 of my screen. And when I scroll up or down it drags along with it almost completely filling the little phone screen. It really makes it difficult to use. Thatís why I mostly canít and donít use it or go there anymore.
Uploading pics is easier and nicer because you can Ďcopyí the pic from your photo library and paste it right into a thread. There are some things that are easier itís true. Just what I mentioned makes it all but impossible for me to navigate. I only use my phone because work network prevents me from logging onto evil gun sites.
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